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[flagged] XAI told me I either had to delete the post, or face being fired (twitter.com/benjamindekr)
26 points by weinzierl 37 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 19 comments



Seems to me that he thinks he's being fired for mentioning that grok 3 exists but he's actually being fired for saying that chatgpt is better than grok 3.


Grok 3 is an unreleased product, he has access only because of his job and he's not authorized to speak publicly about it. So both of those apply.


From what I'm reading, he has no access to Grok 3.

https://x.com/BenjaminDEKR/status/1889543681188774300


Then deciding not to take down a “random opinion of a guess” and instead opt to be fired is an extremely odd decision and/or hill to die on.


He didn't get fired for saying chatgpt is better than grok 3. He was fired for breaching confidential information which is performance of grok 3.


Seems reasonable. If my employee acknowledges in public that competitor x is better, they will be fired. Shouldn’t surprise anyone yet here we are.


Then when you fire them, tell them that. But they threatened him using a different reason, a reason that he has support showing that his action was within guidelines.

He’s also clear in his comments that xAI has the right to do whatever they want. He is giving more data points on how xAI/Twitter/Musk operate. This also doesn’t surprise anyone.


We don't actually know what he was told. We only know what he is saying he was told, with no evidence, and in a context where he's playing to the crowd.

He might have misinterpreted what he was told. He might have been told multiple problems, and only reported one. He might be actively lying.


There was this differentiation and discussion in the thread. He claims he has the support. But you are correct, everything I’m relating is his statements on the Twitter thread. For all we know, the entire story could be false.


I'm quite a free speech guy, and one to expect companies to not enslave you, but it quite makes sense that a company will forbid you to speak publicly about their product or competitors.

Even if the guy says "my opinion", his post might be used by market analyst or random persons to make forecast about the company as they could consider that it leaks insider knowledge.

On the other side, what I find fun is the brain washing that this guy looks like to be suffering of:

   I still hope Elon and xAI win. Yet......

   It's very disappointing to me that a company and leaders who supposedly champion free speech and openness would try to fire a low-level employee over a clearly-labeled opinion that contains absolutely nothing controversial, but here we are. 
He can't be serious, or seriously believing this bullshit. My best guess is that he is trying to lick ass hoping to be saved by his god...


Free speech absolutism for me, but for thee - Elon Musk


I think Elon belongs in jail, and I hope all of his companies fail.

That said, when you work for a company you are a representative of that company.

You shouldn’t be making any public posts about your company that aren’t approved by a media relations team.

The fact that he was asked to take the post down and would not is a strange hill to die on.


How silly, he should instead be unconditionally fired for rating o1 above claude!

(My most recent comparison was giving them both a somewhat complex data structures problem in Elixir involving judicious use of persistent_term for large long-lived values; neither bungled it terribly, o1 gave a longer, more detailed giant response, but claude gave a much more readable and idiomatic module that I could actually use as a starting point.)


Better stick to the communication plan and avoid pumping up your competitor’s products.


This is getting downvoted but yeah if you’re going to work somewhere, you shouldn’t promote competitors. At least let the market decide, I’d be unhappy if this was my business

EDIT: I guess he chose not to work there!


Your CEO is a deranged ketamine abuser. This is not your fault.


We have no idea how xAI phrased things verbatim, but regardless of phrasing or any stated reason, this person gave an insider-only informed opinion on capabilities. When the industry is in such a state that the market went on a $Trillion pearl-clutching dive on DeepSeek news, it should be clear that performance information is all-caps important and valuable, and a stack ranking of systems using your insider knowledge on the social webs is not great.


Guy is crying like a baby, he gave performance of an unreleased model which only he has access. Most corporations would recognize this as breach of confidential information (performance tests for coding).


In the thread he states that he did not have access to Grok 3.




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