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It's Official: The Cybertruck Is More Explosive Than the Ford Pinto (fuelarc.com)
17 points by eqvinox 4 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 4 comments



That is quite unfair. Fires are a function of quantity and time, so you should really be comparing vehicle-years.

For the Tesla Cybertruck, we overestimate the vehicle-years by counting the quantity at at the end of the year for the full year for a total of 34,438 vehicle-years.

For the Ford Pinto, we underestimate the vehicle-years by only counting the quantity at the start of the year for the full year only until the recall halfway through 1978 (e.g. we count 1971 production starting in 1972 until 1978.5 for a total of only 6.5 years). In that case, we count a total of 10,125,030 vehicle-years.

Counting only the 4 fire fatalities for the Tesla Cybertruck, that is 1 fire fatality per ~8609.5 vehicle-years versus the Ford Pinto at 1 per ~375,001 vehicle-years; making the Tesla Cybertruck ~43.5 times higher than the excess fire deaths of the Ford Pinto.

Comparing against overall fire fatality rate [1]. In 2022, there were 650 confirmed deaths in vehicles where a fire occurred over ~232,000,000 household vehicles. That is a rate of about 1 fire fatality per ~350,000 vehicle-years; making the fire fatality rate of the Tesla Cybertruck ~41.4 times higher than the average vehicle.

Note that the Ford Pinto is just excess fire deaths attributed to the gas tank defect rather than the total fire rate which is not well reported which is why it might be comparable to the overall fire fatality rate of today despite higher fire safety on most modern cars. All fires for the Ford Pinto is likely a higher number than the 27 fire deaths directly attributed to the specific defect.

[1] https://content.nfpa.org/-/media/Project/Storefront/Catalog/...


I don't think it's very honest to include the Cybertruck in Las Vegas that was packed full of gasoline and fireworks. Electric cars do catch fire occasionally, but they don't explode unless you put explosive stuff inside.


This is a good point. Without that incident the rate of fire deaths in cybertrucks would only be 13.6 times higher (11.6 per 100k) than the Pinto


True. But the article states at the bottom that they "do not skew data for any purpose", and this is literally the definition of skewing the data.




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