On: OpenAI says it has evidence DeepSeek used its model to train competitor

[__loam]

$7-8b in costs so they're losing $5b

[Pedro_Ribeiro → __loam]

Does that include R&D?

If running ChatGPT costs $1B/y and they make $3B/y on it, tacking on the cost of R&D on top doesn't seem very fair.

[amoshebb → Pedro_Ribeiro]

why not? if their product is “SOTA LLM” then they can’t just lay off r&d and coast. Years from now nobody is going to be paying for “that authentic gpt4 sound”. LLMs aren’t guitars.

[__loam → Pedro_Ribeiro]

Afaik it includes inference which they seem to be offering at a loss.