There are FIDO Alliance folks posting Github issues requesting to remove features such as plaintext exporting of credentials, with the explicit threat that the Alliance might block such "open" passkey providers in the future. A local database is not enough, it needs to be locked in a secure element or protected with some TPM-like scheme.
The spec allows for hardware attestation as well, to ensure passkeys are being provided from blessed computing environments. Hopefully implementers continue to ignore this anti-feature, because it's entirely stupid to lock out users who want to control their own security; at the same time, letting anyone with an Android phone restore passkeys from the cloud with one of their device PINs.
Pretty telling thread. Tim Cappalli, one of the spec writers drops by to criticize the export feature and suggests that the attestation feature should be used to punish them for not implementing the fully locked in version.
The credential exchange changes nothing IMO, the rod to punish anyone who doesn't want their credentials stored on a tech giants servers is still there.
I halfway expect a v2 specification where keys are only stored on a few "Certified Attestation-capable" providers (i.e. facebook, google, apple, amazon)
Then watch them get hacked through a systems management plugin like Clownstrike, or Solarwinds.
That's not what happened. He said quote "which would allow RPs to block you, and something that I have previously rallied against".
This is something that has been proposed that Tim fought against but mentioned in the thread to provide context of the types of kneejerk reactions the spec authors have had to push back against.
The spec allows for hardware attestation as well, to ensure passkeys are being provided from blessed computing environments. Hopefully implementers continue to ignore this anti-feature, because it's entirely stupid to lock out users who want to control their own security; at the same time, letting anyone with an Android phone restore passkeys from the cloud with one of their device PINs.