> Not a single company that offers AI tools, that I know of, provides energy usage and carbon footprint information
What would this look like exactly? What earmarks the power usage as AI, opposed to regular server cost? Just inference and training, or does this also include cost of accumulating and cleaning the data?
It seems like there's no real metric defined here, and as a result any self reported cost by compute breakdown would be largely meaningless.
Sounds like the first step is to define a metric. The second would be to measure. Until then, companies can hide behind the "there's no evidence..." wall.
how much is TikTok/Instagram/YouTube hurting the planet? Just curious
It's great to know XYZ is using N units of energy per day per person or per user but it's not useful unless we can compare against car, planes, ships, trains, TVs, computers, phones, refrigerators, etc...
we are so close to a clean energy transition, I think takes like this one, that equate energy use with harm, are going to seem quaint in a couple years
> To be fair to the owners of power-hungry AI models, their energy usage is probably still dwarfed by other power-hog data center technologies such as cryptocurrency, streaming apps, and online games.
But some guy says you should ignore that because he wants you to be angry.
What would this look like exactly? What earmarks the power usage as AI, opposed to regular server cost? Just inference and training, or does this also include cost of accumulating and cleaning the data?
It seems like there's no real metric defined here, and as a result any self reported cost by compute breakdown would be largely meaningless.