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Julian Assange on Self Destructing Paper(http://web.archive.org/web/20071020051936/http://iq.org/):

The internet is self destructing paper. A place where anything written is soon destroyed by rapacious competition and the only preservation is to forever copy writing from sheet to sheet faster than they can burn.

If it's worth writing, it's worth keeping. If it can be kept, it might be worth writing. Would your store your brain in a startup company's vat? If you store your writing on a 3rd party site like blogger, livejournal or even on your own site, but in the complex format used by blog/wiki software de jour you will lose it forever as soon as hypersonic wings of internet labor flows direct people's energies elsewhere. For most information published on the internet, perhaps that is not a moment to soon, but how can the muse of originality soar when immolating transience brushes every feather?

"but in the complex format used by blog/wiki software de jour you will lose it forever"

Exactly. I don't understand why almost all blogging and CMS platforms store data only to database. I think that proper solution for most sites would be to keep DB for maintenance and indexing purposes. For visitors everything would be served from static files.

is there anything being done to create some persistence? i would imagine a service like this would be useful. ex. small fee (10c) to publish 10kb of unicode, available indefinitely

edit: found this: http://www.chronicleoflife.com/ ... but i was thinking something to publish instead of simple backup

edit2: probably the only company i could trust to pull this off (one-time fee for publishing static content) would be amazon. it fits really well with their core business (infrastructure), and amazon is very good with long term stuff

Any single service or provider is unreliable, and what is needed is not a breadth of services (like the sort of service one or two techies seized by a HN-related enthusiasm might start running) but a depth in time of services - long-term services.

Currently, I back up URLs I care about or link on my site to ~3 places: the Internet Archive, WebCite, and my hard drive ( http://www.gwern.net/Archiving%20URLs )

The proposed goal of The OpenPhoto Project is exactly that.


Others are Unhosted (http://unhosted.org/) and OwnCloud (http://owncloud.org/).

archive.org strive to help with this problem

Specifically, for webpages there is the Wayback Machine: http://archive.org/web/web.php

I think part of the point he's making is to take matters into your own hands, rather than trusting it with a service that may very well disappear (including those that you pay for today).

What if you try to solve for the case where you yourself are not around anymore?

(Might take payments off the table as well, or at least have 10-year plans or something :-))

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