On: Factorio – Statistics improvements, Linux adventures

[Arnavion]

Their reason was that applications want to control everything about how they look, so they don't want compositor-provided decorations that clash with the rest of the application window. Whether that's a *good* reason... Well lots of electrons have been used up in that discussion already.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/217

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/1143

... and probably many other places.

[naikrovek → Arnavion]

Ok, so make it optional to use custom window chrome/decorations, rather than make it mandatory.

GNOME devs are very arrogant. “Do it our way or go away.”

They make it very hard to hold onto any hope that there will ever be a reasonable, cohesive, Linux desktop experience.

[mksybr → naikrovek]

KDE is reasonable and cohesive

[failbuffer → mksybr]

I really like the hearty amount of configurability they make available thru the control panels. They're not afraid of giving you a lot of options, yet it's organized well, easy to use, and the defaults are sensible.

[ikiris → naikrovek]

I think them and fyne fight over who can make a worse gui library experience.