I enjoyed the video and am voting it up, but I think you should change the title, because I was expecting some cheesy dating video...
..I know, what does that say about me, that THINKING that, I still clicked through...
Perhaps add to the end of it - The Longevity of FOSS.
It's a 9 min talk by Clay Shirky basically praising the hacker spirit.
Make a product which the users are going to be excited about and want to preserve, so they will help other people trying to use it.
There seem to be enough people around who don't get that, that it's a non-obvious insight. It's probably because they are just like the "C++ people" in the story, though; they've already made up their minds before you started talking to them.
Still, when I think "hacker" I think solitary, ego-driven programmer, doing immature things to prove himself. I think of the anger and non-compromise that comes out of some of the old beards.
If "hacker" has been reappropriated that's great. I don't mean to quibble over words--regardless of what we call things, I am very optimistic by the growing team-work and social awareness of internet communities.
In any case, point taken as I probably got a bit carried away on my comment above, the talk referenced is more about the collaborative benefits new technologies bring to us.
Good idea. Alas, it seems to be beyond the edit time limit.
In today's society, when we want to criticize some kind of discourse we often say it is "preachy," implying like a sermon, which is understood to be the lowest form of human communication or something.
I never understood that mindset. As Clay Shirky demonstrates here, the sermon can be the most uplifting and inspiring and motivating form of communication we have. Turning off the brain is not inherent in the form at all, quite the opposite.
As another example, Barack Obama's oratory is undeniably influenced and inspired by sermons. Particularly, the African American sermon, perhaps the highest form of this art. The obvious example being Martin Luther King, Jr., a good candidate for greatest speaker of the 20th century.
And if you don't think Clay Shirky's talk here is sermon like, may I suggest you just haven't heard many sermons, or at least not many good ones.
I do agree with you though.
That, and "Perl is a Shinto shrine." Larry Wall himself could hardly spin a better catchphrase.
- perl5 the core language is flexible enough that you can extend the language up towards the problem from perl-space pretty well. It's one of the things I learned to love in lisp.
I just hit n. I can finally go to sleep.
If you want the essence of the insights he has to offer, see his TED talk:
It is rebuilt every 20 years and is on iteration 61.
Same with being gay.
Islam is religious absolutism. Under an Islamic regime, you're a Muslim or you're a dhimmi or you're a slave. If you self-identify as a Muslim then you are incompatible with every significant ideal of America.
And then I was reminded why I stopped doing that a long time ago: there is so much snarkiness. None of these lists or IRC channels ever seem to take a stance against this behaviour and it seems to me as if there are often self-selecting groups of snarky "locals" who drive a list or IRC channel.
On the contrary, I do think that HN is fairly close to what he was describing and is the main reason why I've stopped frequenting other similar sites, but remained here.
I also agree about HN, it seems to have managed to avoid a lot of that.
"Clay Shirky looked like Tom Hanks but I didn't ask him about his latest movie role (I hope)."
"If Shirky ever has a movie made of his life, it’ll have to
be Tom Hanks that stars. I think he sounds and looks a lot like Shirky!"
"Imagine hair on him and Shirky looks, talks and acts exactly like Tom Hanks. Not just similar, but eerily exact."
"One thing I’ve definitely gotta say about this guy though is that he sounds
and looks a lot like Tom Hanks. Not that there’s anything wrong with that."