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> Well, technically it does have datagrams but what I'm getting at is that with fragmentation (let's say you have broken PMTUD) an IP packet can be split up.

Of course, but in the happy usual case your network stack should be starting off with a TCP MSS <= MTU + overhead and the IP datagrams will not be fragmented.

I used the term "datagram" because to higher layers like TCP, it is formally specified this way. I'm not too concerned about pedantry (except to avoid confusion) but this is the literal RFC9293 text: "The application byte-stream is conveyed over the network via TCP segments, with each TCP segment sent as an Internet Protocol (IP) datagram. "



Thanks for the corrections. I think pedantry is a good thing when discussing protocols.

Even today, PMTUD doesn't always work (as expected) because of VPN shenanigans. But right, usually you don't see fragments.




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