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Wikipedia: Articles for Deletion/Minecraft (2010) (wikipedia.org)
28 points by unleaded on Dec 20, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 15 comments



Not sure what is demonstrated here. The notability of subjects can change. It is very well possible for a article to be correctly deleted for notability at some point and then re-created later.


So you're saying this page is not notable?


was


Delete Nazis killed a number of good deeply technical pages, always citing some obtuse wikilaw. There was a time when contributing was encouraged and assisted. Now if you make a new article one of these pricks will delete all of your work no questions asked with their fake voting process where they pull in their little cadre of friends.

Now I just add data to places like GitHub and subject specific wikis. I treat wikipedia like Pinterest at this point.

Curious if I am the only one that has such a dislike for wikipedia?


I just posted this because I thought it was interesting how Minecraft is now a huge phenomenon but I definitely get it. Here's an example I quite like: the article for the ADX file format. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_(file_format)

It has a detailed description of the file header, and C code samples to help decode it. That's awesome! But there used to be a note saying basically "this should be removed and put somewhere else, and someone did remove it (click View history) but then someone put it back. I imagine if this wasn't such an obscure subject (it's a music file format used in a few Sega games around the early 2000s that was never visible to end users) the deletionists would have gotten their hands on it years ago.

I think the reason they do this is the same reason forum mods and discord mods act like they do: For some people this kind of thing is fun. It's like a game of whack-a-mole or something, trying to catch them. People do it on stackexchange too, e.g. I've seen questions get voted to be closed because they think it's too complicated to answer (for them). (Why not just leave it without answers until/unless someone wants to?) And I've done it on discord servers before when I was like 13, there was this server for basically support with hacked nintendo consoles and they had a rule against piracy so you would sort of interrogate people to see if they were using pirated games, and it really was kind of fun to "catch" them. Not very proud of it now of course.

Further reading: https://gwern.net/inclusionism


Maybe you aren't proud of it now, but that experience (in a minimally dangerous manner, it appears) clearly gave you valuable experience in that you are not only aware of the pitfall but able to share your story constructively here, today! Many people (like the Wiki deleters we are currently discussing) likely never were able to receive the same education, or at least never arrived at the valuable conclusion.


You are not. I distrust almost everything on Wikipedia and verify from other sources because I've found so many examples of heavily editorialized content in the past. (and never mind actually trying to contribute, trying that years and year ago burned me for good.) A wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Which has always made me wonder how to do it right. Or if it's even possible to do it right. Perhaps some iron law governs a project becoming impossible past a certain number of people involved. Maybe smaller subject specific sites are actually the only possibility?

Or maybe I'm just holding on to the dream of the order internet. I don't know. I'd like to know. But I wouldn't trust whatever answer to the question was on Wikipedia.


> Delete. Not notable; references are anecdotal at best

We'll, that changed. Would be very interesting to know what the tipping point was that made Minecraft enter general popular culture.


You have to wonder what might have been created had kids of 'that mindset' been drawn to real world activities instead of spinning their little lives away in that game creating ephemera


When we were kids we were these kids and created the lego empire


Skills learned (and projects created) from helping a group of friends host and run a minecraft server back in the day directly contributed to me acquiring a very lucrative position at a Fortune 100 company. This game inspired quite a few people, especially those who are a bit techy (what with all it's redstone circuits and such). There are worse ways to spend your time as a youth.


You actually don’t have to do that at all.


Is there anyone out there building a federated Wiki based on ActivityPub, given it's such a fad nowadays?


Hopefully that is a fad that won't go away that easily. Walled gardens holding users hostage because they would lose all their friends if they switched are a real problem.


I still think Minecraft is irrelevant. Convince me otherwise.




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