Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login
Beeper? I Hardly Knew Her. (daringfireball.net)
24 points by CharlesW on Dec 11, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 12 comments



Note that he has contacts deep inside Apple that often do controlled leaks through him so I consider him part of the Apple PR system. Especially for things they want to say but do not wish to make the official Apple line.

Sometimes he has reasonable technical insights but for unbiased reporting there's no point IMO. And of course this is a pretty contentious issue.


Interesting to read how quickly Apple closed loophole, but this article is essentially a long “my prediction was right” piece by the author; good for him.


I would absolutely prefer iMessage be open to Android, but part of me wants an indication that it’s a non-Apple device because I do feel there is a difference in security and privacy on Apple devices vs Android.

Does that seem absurd?


Ironic, more like.

Consider Graphene and the required devices’ security, and the last decade or so of zero-click iOS stuff.


Nobody I know non-professionally is using Graphene. And zero-days exist and have existed for every platform. I’m talking about default security. Apps on Android can literally take over the messaging system.


I hope you come across some better friends soon, or help your friends and family with their security a bit, because Pixels are cheap, install takes minutes, and Graphene with Play Store is easy enough for most grandmas.

Even easier than the default Android UI/UX, arguably. Less distractions and unexpected behavior.


Is there real non marketing evidence that android is less secure?


I’m not talking about exploits. I’m talking about the fact that users can install applications on Android that have far broader access to the system on Android. While great for people like me, it’s not always great for typical users.


Android applications have as much or as little access as you give them, you don't have to grant every permission an app asks for.


And yes and that has worked out well for Android and PCs.

A coworker was just bragging last week that he secretly installed something on his son’s Android phone that allowed him to listen in on him, see screenshots of everything he was doing.

Users generally just accept all.


The version distribution stats. Unfortunately I don't think there is one for security patches, but I am pretty sure an average android device is less secure. Though conceptually there are arguments you can make either way between a recent pixel and iPhone if you want to compare the best to the best.


I don't know if it's absurd but it is nosy. If other people want to use a less-secure OS that's none of your business.




Consider applying for YC's Fall 2025 batch! Applications are open till Aug 4

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: