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Nokia to erase up to 14,000 employees from payroll (theregister.com)
49 points by mikece on Oct 19, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 56 comments


This is the weirdest wording for layoffs I've ever seen. Makes it seem like some sort of data error in the db they are fixing


Bob Porter : I looked into it more deeply and I found that apparently what happened is that he was laid off five years ago and no one ever told him about it; but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck.

Bob Slydell : So we just went ahead and fixed the glitch.

Bill Lumbergh : Great.

Dom Portwood : So, uh, Milton has been let go?

Bob Slydell : Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the glitch. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally.

Bob Porter : We always like to avoid confrontation, whenever possible. Problem is solved from your end.


When I was younger I laughed assuming it was a comedy

Now I laugh to keep from crying because I realize it's a documentary.


I would love to work in a cubicle farm like that vs. an open office any day though.


After relocating from the US to Scandinavia, people here are always give me crap for having worked in a cubicle farm. And I always tell them I'd go back to that layout in a second compared the open landscape nightmare we have everywhere here.


I remember in the early 00's seeing blogs or cartoons where they would complain and call it their "gray, 4-walled prison cell". Well, that cell is a lot more dignified than today's open-office hot-desking that would be akin to an impoverished country's prison!


Yeah, after just watching the matrix, cube farms are necessary for running away from ai agents.


Especially cause he faced the entrance to his cubicle with his face, not his back.


Yeah open plan offices is like someone looked at cubicles and said "they are not miserable enough, we need to change something"


While it was a really funny scene in the movie, I always assumed that on top of being cruel this seems like a dangerous way to handle the issue. Looks like a pretty easy wrongful termination lawsuit here. Especially if Milton keeps showing up for work and doesn't get paid for it.


It doesn't work out well for the company in the end in the movie either.

Works out great for milton though.


I dunno, he asked for a Mai Tai and they brought him a Piña Colada. And he said no salt on his margarita, but it had salt on it.

Sounds like people still don’t listen to him, poor Milton.


Since we're on this tangent anyway, can I just give a shout out to that actor, Stephen Root?

It's amazing to see the contrast between Milton and his other characters.


I was absolutely floored when I realized Fuches and Milton are the same guy. Terrific actor!


Gee, thanks a Milton


The protagonist (and presumably Milton) has 8 different bosses.

Even if doing this would result in a lawsuit against the company, it's unlikely to impact those middle-managers personally.

Which is a key takeaway from the movie, it consistently shows apathy at every level.


Bullshit jobs before they were labeled Bullshit jobs.


Wrongful termination generally requires either discrimination based on protected class or retaliation for reporting (discrimination / injury / safety).

You generally can’t sue your employer for being an unfair asshole.


You can definitely sue them for not telling you that you're fired, and then not paying you for the work you do.


I immediately had the same thought. „We fixed the glitch!“



Confuse trading algos that do semantic analysis? It can be interpreted as neutral, if it's not "cuts".


When it comes to corporations, we’re all just numbers in a database.


> When it comes to corporations, we’re all just numbers in a database.

... or bricks in the wall.


I agree, but at the same time it’s just the flip side of the term “job creation” so can’t blame them.


Maybe a Freudian slip? Maybe we are all in a simulation?



Use this link. The title isn’t weird, and there’s better discourse.


IDK, I think using an axe instead of an eraser is still weird. Though the terminology is somewhat more common.


Good point I guess - axing relates more to terminations, and ‘erasing’ sounds more like they’ve removed the job role altogether. That said, the former usually comes in tandem with the latter.




Title should be Nokia DELETES 14,000 employees.


drops connections


Missed opportunity to say “gives them the boot” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Nokia


Nokia still exists? It looks like they make mid to low tier phones. What value could they possibly bring to the table? They should take the Volvo / Epic route and just sellout to the Chinese now.


Nokia itself makes network equipment only. They also license their brand to a company that manufactures Android phones.


Phones? Hardly. Their offering is the network infrastructure and one of the ’western’ alternatives to Huawei kit.


They do not make phones. The are only selling license to the company that is branding them with Nokia logo. Nokia is a major global vendor of 4g/5g and PON equipment. Like really big. Especially now when using Huawei devices is not acceptable in many countries.


I was wondering about that too, but the articles says they make networking equipment, like 5G-related things.


At first glance, I thought they accidentally dropped their employee database or something.


They hired Bobby Tables.


Erase. What a strange word to use. Is that a translation error?


It sounds odd to me, too. The original statement from Nokia – https://www.nokia.com/about-us/news/releases/2023/10/19/insi... – doesn't use it but is rather matter of fact talking about a "reduction in personnel expenses" and the need to "protect profitability" rather than being people-led.

The Register tends to use slightly more evocative language and metaphors than most tech publications, so maybe it's a tongue in cheek reference to how robotic and unfeeling Nokia's statement sounds.


I guess it's tongue in cheek and an Office Space reference to this long winded and "corporate" way of saying you're firing 14k persons.

  Nokia accelerates strategy execution, streamlines operational model and takes action to protect profitability
  [...]
  The program is expected to lead to a 72 000 – 77 000 employee organization compared to the 86 000 employees Nokia has today.


I don't frequently read The Register but every time I've read their articles over the years it's been a bit tongue-in-cheek and quirky so this fits.


Probably just theregister being a bit quirky and a bit click baity.


They're a tabloid, the original click-baiters.



Nokia bricks 14,000 human cuboids.


Amazed Nokia has 14k employees??


that was my thought too, my impression was they went under several years ago, so not only they has 14k employee, but they has 14k employee who can be let go

anyway, i visited their wikipedia page, say they have 86k employee and make 24 billion a year

i tried to understand from their webpage what they sell now, but it seem this will need more time to understand , the page is all over the place with generic terms


They build equipment for 5g base stations beside other things. And because of Huawei ban in many countries they are a leader on the market.


The thing that went bankrupt, afaik, were the phones division that got sold off. Nokia phones, after their short stint at Microsoft, are now manufactured by HMD, who conveniently has their HQ right across the street from Nokia HQ. Nokia, the rest of the non-phone company, makes telecom stuff, and I don't think ever went under, just suffered quite badly.


They don't make just phones - they make cables, infrastructure, etc etc.


They don't even make phones anymore, that division got sold to Microsoft (we all know how that went), and is now owned by HMD Global, who funnily enough has their HQ across the street from Nokia HQ, and has a funnily high number of former Nokia phone execs in their leadership.




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