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Peter Thiel Says British Affection for NHS Is Stockholm Syndrome (bloomberg.com)
7 points by bookofjoe on Oct 2, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 12 comments



"He said that the crisis-stricken health service, was making people sick and needs “market mechanisms” to fix it"

no, it simply needs a government that isn't going to hollow it out because it would rather that nationalized health not exist. Americans should be the last people on earth instructing others how healthcare should be done.

it's incredible how privatized healthcare works worse and worse when conservative governments set on dismantling them are in power


Says bloke rich enough to afford healthcare in the country with the most broken system in the western world



It should be considered a human right to buy anything that can plausibly be considered medical.

Allowing a free market in medical products with the only regulation being aimed at preventing misrepresentation or fraud would greatly reduce the negative effects of other ways of paying for healthcare. Nobody could complain about "death panels" or denying terminal patients experimental treatments if there was an almost unrestricted free market operating along side the main system.


Implicit in this proposal is allowing people free access to medications including narcotics, HRT, etc. As we see today, this is not a palatable solution for people. If we accept that there must be some restrictions, then we quickly circle back to where we are today, which is a subset of allowable medicine which is tolerated by the public whilst what is unpopular is banned.



ClassyJacket says affection for Peter Thiel is Dunning Kruger syndrome


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I feel like making a rule for myself. Don't take anyone seriously who isn't in a position to get called on his own BS. Because you can usually find someone else who isn't a POS or an attention whore to argue a point.

So you don't need to listen to Musk on immigration, Thiel on the NHS, Chomsky about colonialism and US foreign policy.


The NHS is iatrogenic because of chronic underfunding and politics. The US system is iatrogenic to poor people.


Iatrogenic means "caused by a physician/doctor." Typical usage would be in reference to an injury, illness, or death; I can't parse what you mean by "[t]he NHS is iatrogenic"


I'm riffing on what Theil said in the article. The NHS considered as a system in it's present condition makes some people sicker than when they came in much as routine prescribing of fentanyl is held to have triggered americas addiction crisis in working poor. For different reasons. Delay, and use of outdated treatments because of health economics, and because of problems like c.difile and golden staph in the residential hospital system.


Rationing through wait times vs rationing through price.




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