I’d contrast to Tildes where I think reply notifications help keep people engaged in discussions and Mastodon where I think people use favorites to close off a discussion.
Tildes is interesting to compare to HN because it is superficially similar but the balance between links and discussions is quite different. That is, I think “Ask HN” is pretty sad and mostly failed (look at how few get a single comment) but linkless discussions on Tildes are pretty lively.
Just like Twitter, just like Reddit, it would encourage me to type the sort of comments that I try not to write on topics I try not to engage in in ways I try to avoid.
Your mileage varies of course and I am glad there is a place where you get what you need.
My typical experience with people talking sports has been very tribal.
But that’s my experience not yours of course.
One of the reasons I am on HN is the diminished role of tribal opinions . It’s not that I don’t have them, I just don’t think mine are particularly interesting.
There are different things I get out of sports socially.
Going to a game (could be any sport because I have a project to do sports photography for every team at my Uni) I relish it when the away team has a big tailgate, when they bring a raucous crowd, when I feel like I have to whoop it up for the home team to compete with them. I think it is is a healthy tribalism as I know in my heart I have no malice towards them in fact I am glad they came.
Soccer games have a different aspect because the crowd that shows up is very diverse: I hear a lot of languages spoken that are not English because foreign students come, a lot of youth soccer players from elementary school to high school come and boy they understand the game well and are following it closely and spectating actively but there are also staffers who themselves played sports (say field hockey) when they were young who brought along children who weren’t so interest in the game and end up leaving at the half.
The feeling I get there is that we are all part of a soccer network that goes all the way down to pickup games and youth leagues and goes up, up, up to MLS and the Premier League and the national teams that go to the world cup so my solidarity is not just to my school but to the whole world of soccer.
Personally I am not so into sports talk about who I think is better or who is going to win except in those cases where one team or player is on a different leve at a particular time. If I want to get into a knock-down drag-out, I’d rather get into a discussion about controversial rule changes or the impact of gambling on sport. Myself my interest in sports has spiked lately thanks to the influence of my RSS reader and my photography so it’s also an area where I have a lot to learn from not just the experts but other fanns.
Photographing high school soccer was my excuse to buy a DSLR…and refereeing youth soccer was how I started understanding people and road tripping for tournament work was how I really got the travel bug.
But there’s no free lunch. I’ve seen sports tribalism used as the excuse for bullying, violence, and bad behavior in general…in myself as well as others.
It’s not that there are not thoughtful conversations to be had around sports, it is that sports has such a low barrier to trolling and reactions are often deeply emotional.
I mean asking for your specific team support would have been the low hanging troll vector.
More importantly trolling would have been within the norms of sports talk when both people aren’t saying roll tide etc.
These days, I usually read the BBC football page every day and watch Premier League on whatever day Arsenal play and have my fix by 2pm Pacific…home games are all done before noon because the gunners play early because of police coverage.
That’s enough for me now. I was in the Orange Bowl when my team beat Nebraska for its first national championship, I went to four World Cup matches, seen Shaq play for the home team, seen Valderama’s home debut, seen Kaka make his home debut, seen seen Consequo play for the home team, seen my childhood team finally win a superbowl, seen my child win two D1 youth soccer state championships and a 7A high school championship.
My fan race is mostly run and I mostly don’t miss the deep emotions that binary sports thinking once caused.
Tildes is interesting to compare to HN because it is superficially similar but the balance between links and discussions is quite different. That is, I think “Ask HN” is pretty sad and mostly failed (look at how few get a single comment) but linkless discussions on Tildes are pretty lively.