> Without specific concerns or a clear bar for acceptance, I (and my funding organization) will have to treat the current decision-in-limbo as a “no” and will be unable to pursue the PEP further.
IMHO this is a real shame if it is abandoned, Sam's work is incredible and the community should be jumping through hoops to try and find a way forward. The lack of motivation from some of the core Python developers to try and find solutions to the concerns is a real shame.
At the same time very minor (not bad, just not as important) PEPs are accepted all the time, particularly regarding type hints and module magic methods. I love the "new python" with the type hints, but in retrospect more effort should have been spent upfront rather than piecing it together as it seems now
Well in fairness from reading the thread, it seems like it competes with some of their own pet projects. It also does have some real transition risks. That said, I don't see why Apple-style fat binaries can't solve those.
> Without specific concerns or a clear bar for acceptance, I (and my funding organization) will have to treat the current decision-in-limbo as a “no” and will be unable to pursue the PEP further.
Hynek Schlawack - Creator of attrs library - has a really good thread arguing that the current process is going to lead to this being abandoned: https://fosstodon.org/@hynek@mastodon.social/110490910474469...
IMHO this is a real shame if it is abandoned, Sam's work is incredible and the community should be jumping through hoops to try and find a way forward. The lack of motivation from some of the core Python developers to try and find solutions to the concerns is a real shame.