Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

In western parts of Germany something similar happened, for example the Bavarian Soviet Republic. And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people.

(though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence)

"In the first months of 1919, in the wake of uprisings, soviet republics were proclaimed in Bremen, Munich and Saxony. The deployment of Freikorps troops put a violent end to them by the beginning of May of that year at the latest."

https://www.bpb.de/themen/deutschlandarchiv/54085/raete-im-d...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic




> (though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence)

Poland was actually lucky, because the Soviets lost. At least back then, until they attacked us again in 1939.


"In the first months of 1919, in the wake of uprisings, soviet republics were proclaimed in Bremen, Munich and Saxony. The deployment of Freikorps troops put a violent end to them by the beginning of May of that year at the latest."

Under the direction of the SPD, as led by Frederich Ebert (still revered as the party's patron saint, basically).


Not sure what you're claiming here:

> And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people [...] though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence

The Polish-Soviet War was not a war of "nationalists killing the people". It was a war to prevent the spread of communism and Soviet imperialism. Not only did Poles by and large reject communism (communist sympathy was higher in Germany, for example), and Soviet communism even more so, but Lenin saw Poland as the corridor through which the Red Army would need to pass to support revolution further West.


The history of East Central Europe is very complicated and contested. Don't know whether there were obvious good guys in the aftermath of WW I.

"He (Piłsudski) used military force to expand the Polish borders in Galicia and Volhynia and crush a Ukrainian attempt at self-determination in the disputed territories east of the Curzon Line, which contained a significant Polish minority."

Lenin, Trotzki, Piłsudski killed a lot of people because of ideology and nationalism.

These Mini-States look more sympathetic.


not sure who were the nationalists, but soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing


> not sure who were the nationalists

See Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps

> soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing

You're confusing the USSR ("the soviets") with socialism/communism/other stuff in general.




Join us for AI Startup School this June 16-17 in San Francisco!

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: