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NYPD officers brag about milking overtime in accidental recording (gothamist.com)
112 points by arkadiyt on April 7, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 20 comments



Also in the article: cops using disparaging slurs, wasting people's time, joking about institutionalizing people for no reason, judging people as criminals for knowing the law, and denying water to someone locked up.

New York's finest, indeed.


Seriously, milking OT is the least of the issues, it's how they're doing it.Sounds arguably unconstitutional, purposefully stalling due process for your own gain should land the pigs themselves in jail.


Frankly that's basically all law enforcement in the US. The larger departments just get exposed more often because there's more people and more opportunities for them to slip up and get recorded like this


And people wonder why some of us say the police need to be abolished and replaced with something less obviously corrupt.


That non management wishes to be paid overtime rates is not unique to police.

This happens across all industries. You could argue that it happens more in govt than outside of it.

Ive never understood Why we trust politicians as the middleman between our taxpayer credit card and unions or service providers, like cops. There is complete misalignment in incentives. Why do we pretend that overtime is going to be any different?


Did you read the article? I doubt it since the title is misses the egregious part of the corruption described. It is terrible to be policed by the dolts that were recorded.


i did

it could be police. it could be firefighters. it could be municipal garbage truckers. i dont see "corruption" . i see plain old overtime milking & malfeasance as in any other industry with extremely poor oversight and controls.

It should be a fireable offense. But unions make it hard. That is by design.

Do you think this does not happen in other nyc agencies doing services for taxpayers?


They're delaying due process for their own benefit, this is the definition of corruption. Like the judges selling kids into private prisons, albeit on a smaller scale, no less a violation.


That doesn't seem honest. If they are delaying due process by simply squeezing overtime (due to reforms the benefiaries didn't enact themselves, btw), ...

do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ?

Since when is optimal performance a right?

Instead, we have curative actions. That is called firing. The fact that the management structure is failing to do that does not mean anyone is stripped of any rights, except that taxpayers are not getting their money's worth for the services they delegated to bureaucracies.


do we also say a judge going on vacation is delaying due process ?

You are being deliberately daft. Obviously not. The situations aren’t comparable.


I was not the one in this thread, that compared OT milking to a judge getting bribes, to send more kids to jail.

Those situations are not comparable.


If you think overtime is the corruption one should be worrying about from what is described in the article then you either didn’t read it or you have seriously misguided priorities. Overtime is a red herring.


I am not following.

I read a bunch of OT milking + a bunch of @-hole behavior.

Being a knucklehead doesn't make you corrupt.

Then some run-of-the-mill lobbying of unions, as you would find in any large metro with a large govt payroll.

Is there anything else I may have missed ?


Why not the entire government?


Spoken like someone who's never milked overtime.


Milking overtime is the least concerning thing here, given that these guys are part of a group that is given guns, a license to use whatever violence they deem necessary against us, and preferential treatment under the law.

You're addressing the least serious criticism.


Not sure why you expect that behavior to be a constant here on Hacker News. Lots of people on this site spend most of their lives working overtime-exempt salaried positions.

Personally, I started working when I was 14, and I've never been paid an hour of overtime at any of my service or technology jobs over the course of decades.


Milking overtime specifically by prolonging someone's detention is a bit different ...


If you milking overtime is delaying the release of a person from jail, on garbage charges no less, I think it's time for a felony on the record and some custodial time.


What? IT people would never do such things.

In related news, cops are people. They play the game to get the money and they complain about things.




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