Hacker News new | comments | show | ask | jobs | submit login

Hi LatchKey,

I'm really sorry that we sent you that email. We just launched a little over a week ago with this crazy idea, and were extremely surprised at how quickly we were overwhelmed with orders.

We made a bad judgement call in sending some emails to people asking if anyone is interested in jobs.

If it makes you feel any better, you can see that we aren't finding very many talented engineers, and we will likely need to refund a lot of money in a few days.

We are honestly trying to be a great service for software developers and employers. We need feedback from people like yourself to learn how we can be the best service possible to reshape the hiring industry.

We actually sent you an email, but never heard back. Please let us know if you're interested in continuing this discussion further on or off of a public message board.

Thanks for keeping us honest.




--------------------------------------------------------- Hi Jon,

Thank you for the bug report, and the criticism. I was surprised to see that you had not already disabled your profile, so I went ahead and disabled it for you.

We are a new service, and we are truly trying to create the best possible experience for software engineers. Sending you an email about our job openings was a mistake. I'm very sorry about that, and it won't happen again.

We recently implemented a feature where users can see job listings we have open in their profile and let us know if they are interested, so in that way we only contact people who let us know they are interested in specific job openings. I think that this is great start of a feature that could be good for everybody.

Thanks again, Steve ---------------------------------------------------------

Above is the form letter you sent me in response to me calling you out on spamming me. I wonder how many people also got that same exact email? Never mind the fact that the original email was a form letter too!

The part about 'surprised to see that you had not already disabled your profile' seemed pretty absurd given that there was no way that I could disable my profile from your site.

In fact, I shouldn't even have to disable the profile on your site. To begin with, you should have never created one for me, or anyone else. I certainly never asked you to do so and you've clearly violated GitHub's terms of service.

Why are there still profiles up on your site? Why do you feel it is necessary to post the big names first (http://githire.com/best) and try to profit from their profile information? It isn't like they are looking for jobs.

I'm sorry you made multiple bad judgement calls, but that isn't my fault. I also don't know why you expected a response from me. I really don't want to have anything more to do with your spam business.

Even the title of this HN article is misleading. You are basing the failure of your business to recruit people from GitHub on economic indicators? Seriously?


Really, guys, you're downvoting this quite reasonable complaint? [Edit: I realize that by the time I posted this, it was no longer downvoted, but I'm not going to ninja-edit beyond posting this disclaimer]

Take a look at http://githire.com/best - do you really think Linus Torvalds is actually looking for a job, let alone going through this site to do so? If not (which is obviously the case), how is it not spammy and misleading to put him as number 1 on a "best" list on a jobs site? That goes along perfectly with the story that latchkey has told about being approached, unsolicited, with unwanted interview requests, and makes me think somewhere along the line, somebody forgot to think about what was proper and what was not. That's not okay, and I'm not very willing to dismiss it as "oops, we were launching, so we took a few shortcuts", it's spammy behavior, plain and simple.

There's probably something that could be done in this space, but this all just seems super shady.


Just want to say this is an excellent response, humble, taking responsibility and genuinely saying sorry. Please carry on like this.

I do believe that latchkey mentioned some very valid points though, perhaps taking those on board and changing your strategy would be a better way to entice talent.




Guidelines | FAQ | Support | API | Security | Lists | Bookmarklet | DMCA | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: