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80k megapixel panorama photograph of New York City (2021) (earthcam.net)
318 points by magoghm on Feb 19, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 97 comments



It's actually a 120 gigapixel image. It was taken with a 61 megapixel Sony a7R IV and Sony 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G lens with a robotic housing.

https://petapixel.com/2021/04/27/this-120-gigapixel-photo-is...


How many pixels a stitched panorama has is not as clear cut I guess. Just because you stitch a panorama at a certain size does not mean that you actually have information for that much resolution - and it's hard to say what size you should stitch at since, for any notrivial panorama, how many source pixels contribute to an area in the output will vary greatly depending on where on the panorama you are looking at due to the nonlinear transforms involved. E.g. stiching an equirectangular projection from ~rectilinear source images will give you much more resolution at the center line compared to the top/bottom, which are just one point stretched across the whole width (for a panorama covering the whole 180 vertical angles).

Then there is also the question of what the source resoltion actually is - most commonly the quoted resolution of a camera (i.e. the "Megapixels" on the maketing material) is usually the number of sensor "pixels" but each of those is only a single color so the resulting image won't really have that many RGB pixels of information even if it is developed at that resolution - the will be quite a bit filled in by interpolation.

Then there is resolution loss from suboptimal focus due to needing to cover a large distance range, lens imperfections or just the air when things are far enough away.

So while the resulting image might have 120 000 000 000 pixels, it might not actually have more than 80 000 000 000 pixels worth of information. That's not to say it isn't impressive, just trying to point out that a simple gigapixel number might not actually say what you might think.


Anywhere to download the original image? Be a cool wallpaper :)


The loading speed is pretty impressive! I can pan and zoom around crazy fast and load the full resolution views nearly instantly.


It's like Google Maps, but you're inside the earth pinned at the center and the images are projected onto the sphere. They load in tiles, so it's trivial to get it to be this fast.


Not sure if "trivial" is a good word.

Sure you may publish a JS library on NPM to prove it is sooo simple?


I meant trivial as in "is a solved issue" in the sense that you only have to include a library like Pannellum [0].

Features:

- Equirectangular, partial, cubic, and multi-resolution panoramas

- WebGL and CSS 3D based renderers

- Hot spots / tours

- Compass headings

- Plug-in free

- Framework free

- Video support

[0] https://github.com/mpetroff/pannellum


Looking into the source, it looks like it uses krpano.


Crazy thing is that this is like only half of New York City, south of 34th street. Basically all of midtown is north of this with some of the most impressive buildings and density. Nevermind uptown, the Bronx, and Queens. Unless I'm missing someway to look north.


"This is like only half of Manhattan, one of 5 city boroughs" would be more accurate

Though to be fair, most people _do_ associate Manhattan with NYC


When you’re in Brooklyn, you still say “going in to the city” to mean Manhattan.


I live in Brooklyn and I just say I'm going to Manhattan if I am going to Manhattan.


having lived in queens for long time, I agree, I usually would say Manhattan though, tbh, I'd sometimes make fun of someone and just say "the big city" when they are reluctant to go into manhattan for whatever reason


Born and raised in Manhattan. Live in Brooklyn. When I’m returning home I say I’m “going back to the city”. When I’m in Brooklyn going to Manhattan I say “going into the city”.


Live in Brooklyn, can confirm. I don't like it, but this is how people talk about Manhattan.


Apparently the camera can stream live video: https://www.earthcam.net/products/gigapixelcamx80.php

There would probably be some privacy issues with streaming a city live though


This photo is a composite. It wouldn't live stream at this resolution. So at this distance there wouldn't be any privacy implications


That really depends on what you would call a live stream and how fast the camera can cover the whole panosphere. Having the whole image updated every minute (probably not realistic for this resolution) could still be considered a live stream.

And the distance doesn't really help the privacy implications if the resolution is big enough that you can zoom in far enough to identify individual humans. Then again, expectations of privacy outside and at locations visible from outside are probably going to be violated at some point anyway.


I don't really understand the use case.

I feel like if I'd be a potential buyer of such a camera I'd also be in the position to install many cameras in many places and get a better perspective.

What's this give you? Passive iris scanning at a distance maybe? An ability to read people's phone screens? What's the problem this is solving?


It’s a snapshot of a moment of time. I think we all agree it’s useful to have photos of different places from different eras, right?

I mean at its most fundamental level, this is a future historical document. It’s easy to imagine why that is “useful” or “what problems it solves.”


You raise an excellent point: looking back in time at street photographs is fascinating.

e.g., https://1940s.nyc/map


Exactly!


I'd love a sky cam that could find me an open parking space.


And the likelihood of you getting it before someone else who exhibits looking-for-parking behavior.


Think way more boring. On that page linked above, towards the bottom they show various construction project management integrations and use cases.


This is the real enterprise use. I've worked on multiple Earth Cam integrations on NYC high rise construction projects. Honestly wasn't fun to integrate, and the integration (at least in 2008-2016 were all over Java. They might have updated since then, but the purpose was mostly for "toy" integrations so that condo purchasers could watch the construction on their new multi million dollar home years before they get to move in.

I'm fairly certain it was never really used by customers, but the executive team LOVED it, so any time the API failed (usually needed to upgrade the API client because of a breaking change), it was an all hands on deck and a middle of the night/weekend patch.


Would love to know how much it costs


> The GigapixelCam X80 is $24,995 as fitted, but if a client does not need a robotic version, those are less expensive. EarthCam’s line starts at $1,900 for a time-lapse camera with solar power and goes up from there.

https://petapixel.com/2021/04/27/this-120-gigapixel-photo-is...


Price seems cheap compared to what can be done with it especially in homeland security applications


Someone posted something like this here years back I remember, 195 gigapixel, but for Shanghai.

http://pf.bigpixel.cn/zh-CN/pano/771906131130847232.html

https://www.dpreview.com/news/1645435845/chinese-company-cap...


Needs a (2021) label.

Taken in early March 2021, judging by the movies playing at the IFC.


well, it didn't take very long to find a naked guy (not PARTICULARLY revealing thankfully, in the building that says THE EPIC)

there's a guy working out on a peloton or similar on his balcony. Can you find him?!

This would be really neat to do again in the summer, when presumably(?) the roof decks are full of people. The rooflines are pretty desolate looking right now.


This could be the world's biggest Where's Waldo game. Someone should dress as him the next time this takes a photo.


And here I was, just wasting my time looking at the bolts in the building (180 degrees from the opening shot).


So funny, I saw that dude right away and came here to post about that.


I found a telescope in the building, and after your suggestion, I observed the guy.


Dang, you beat me to it, I was just about to post about the naked guy I found ;)


> do again in the summer

I'm pretty sure EarthCam does this daily.


Very impressive but it’s just south of 34th Street, so I can’t look in my own window.


Could just as well be the view from a spy balloon

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a38005873...


80k megapixel = 80 gigapixel?


Yes


The near stuff is incredibly detailed as well! Look backwards at the building the photo is taken from and you can read labels on the bolts and see flakes of rust on the grate below.


You can see the text on the bolt head behind the camera. Amazing


Holy cow - I literally was just about to make this same exact comment. I was like, that's pretty incredible resolution on the rust on the steel grating. Wait, what about this bolt over here - and bam! I can see the knicks on the flathead cut surface. Pretty amazing.


makes you think about how much information hits our eyes vs how much we perceive


Didn’t think this was going to be too impressive. Then I started zooming, and realized how many people I could spy on in their windows and in the streets.



Am I the only one who found the two naked people?


Yes. The rest us are pure of heart ;)


do tell. i've been searching for flesh! ;-)


Not quite as astounding a vision as Lebbus Woods', but not bad.

https://lebbeuswoods.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/lower-manhatta...


If you look to the right, just in front of the Eugene (one of the newer Hudson Yards high rise buildings) the top part of the crane is split. There have to be other similar examples throughout the photo.


I know megapixels are used when discussing cameras but I find the unit hard to understand. It would be so much more informative to know the resolution of the image in pixels.


Even megapixels are not a guarantee (since the camera might do some processing) but at least they relate to the resolution _of the sensor_.

It is a bit like the nanometer nodes of the cpu processes vs using the surface size of the final cpu.


s/the camera might do some processing/the camera is almost always doing processing and only captures ¼ of the information content compared to what its marketed resolution implies/

That is, the sensor will have that many "pixels", but each sensor pixel only captures a single color and the rest is interpolated.


Agree. A consumer camera might advertise too many megapixels, while more professional cameras, like medium format cameras (the ones used for architecture, for instance) do not distort it so much.

In this, it is like the node size. It is not directly comparable but gives a reference to talk about.


What you really want to know is the information content (in the information theory sense) of the image. The number of pixels is somewhat arbitrary depending on the processing involved - and especially for nonlinear projections like used here, there is no definite answer on how many pixels it should have beyond an upper and lower bound.


The only thing you need to understand is: Bigger Is Better Resolution.

The unit itself is basically hogwash at this point, not unlike TDP, silicon process nodes, processor clock speeds, and USB.


Wow - this is crazy.


Truly stunning that I can read license plates on cars!


Incredible. I can't believe how detailed it is.


What are all those huge cylinders on the rooftops? Each one has a brown cone on top. I see hundreds of them. Pressurized water?



All the technicalities aside, this is beautiful.


I wish the web page also took care of aspect ratio.

Good for viewing at 8k after you correct aspect ratio by browser window resizing.


Someone walked on that completely rusted out unpainted metal platform to install and remove the camera


For some reason I spent the past 15 minutes trying to find the building where MKBHD Studio is.


It’s a shame they took it from the side of a building rather than the top…


Some kind of barrels on almost every roof. What are those?



Water tanks to supply the buildings


hmm why do they need water tanks? I thought city supplies the water etc.. Or they are only required for large buildings because of pressure?


NYC underground water pipes are very old and run at low pressure. Buildings above a certain height need to pump water to roof and then gravity feed it.

If you search NYC water tanks on YouTube there are some good documentaries of the companies that build them.


The latter. These tanks are still supplied by the municipal water system but storing it in the tanks allow for consistent water pressure in tall buildings.


Water tanks


Can you find Waldo?


Anyone seeing the nude guy at epic.com building?


You should add a cache rule for those image tiles


Wow. Stable diffusion is progressing exponentially. What prompts and/or model was used for to generate this? (Prove me wrong.)


> Wow. Stable diffusion is progressing exponentially. What prompts and/or model was used for to generate this? (Prove me wrong.)

When you zoom in, the pedestrians have the right number of fingers.


I wonder how long it took? If it's fast, it would be scary, imagine taking picture of crowds...


“This photo was probably created over several weeks, but that being said we could run a simple version where it runs 77 photos at 70mm to create a 2.6 gigapixel photo and that takes 15 minutes,” Cury explains.

https://petapixel.com/2021/04/27/this-120-gigapixel-photo-is...


They do crowd shots like this quite a bit at sporting events and whatnot. I am in this one haha: http://gigapixel.panoramas.com/superbowl/2013/


I'd guess 10 minutes up to an hour on modern hardware, say a new mac studio. That would be in lightroom - I'm guessing they're using optimized software for this though.

Taking the actual pictures takes at least couple minutes. The Sony A1 can take 50mp shots at 20 fps - pretty amazing. That's (conveniently) 1 gigapixel per second. So minimum 2 minutes to capture this entire image. Add at least a second between shots for the robotic housing and we're talking 4+ minutes.

Could certainly be used to capture most of the faces in a huge crowd.


Crazy you're able to see Metlife Stadium and make out planes at EWR


Still looks kinda blurry when you zoom in all the way


Depending on the distance, you’re likely seeing atmospheric distortion from stuff like heat shimmer.


I was implying it would be good to have a zoom limit so the image is sharp at max zoom


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Welp, that's a first for me on this website.


Genuinely curious what was said. They had +5 it appears…which is even more concerning..


You can enable showdead in your user settings if you want to see [dead] comments.


Sorry to disappoint you but: rickroll


Yeah not cool here. Leave that for Reddit.


You're not wrong. But these kind of reposts should be held to the same standard.


Nothing wrong with reposts when they generate new discussion. At least submissions for this domain didn't seem to take off before so many people would not have seen it yet.


I didn’t see him but someone who looks like Rick Astley was performing on stage there




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