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Mick Wests videos on the topic have been thoroughly debunked by fighter pilots and experienced aviators.

He also completely ignores the eyewitness testimony and radar data.

He’s one of the least credible debunkers you can find.



> Mick Wests videos on the topic have been thoroughly debunked by fighter pilots and experienced aviators.

I have never seen a counter-analysis. Can you explain why you think this? It's not common knowledge that the observations of Mick West has been "debunked"...at least not as commonly known or easy to find as the Mick West analysis or the source videos.


Well Lemmino's video on the topic had a source for an interview with a specialist for the pod optics who disputes it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fefUZAGtCO4&t=310s

Regardless I think the simplest counter argument is that if that were really the case, you'd see these damn things on every flight facing the sun and people would know to ignore them. Lens flares also don't show up on radar and on pilot's eyes. No crazy analysis needed.


> No crazy analysis needed.

That's unnecessarily pejorative. Presenting something as evidence, requires some amount of rigor. This is why an in-depth analysis is valued. Presenting as strong a case as possible for either side, is the method by which we can best decide on what is known.

> Regardless I think the simplest counter argument is that if that were really the case, you'd see these damn things on every flight facing the sun and people would know to ignore them

I don't believe that's a counter-argument, as it applies to both conclusions. A unique coincidence does not imply it's common. ie If the gimbal video was a UFO, you'd see these damn things on every flight, etc.

> Lens flares also don't show up on radar and on pilot's eyes.

Mick West's analysis video does not contend that the object is only a lens flare, but an object with a lens flare (or lens artifact) overlaying it. There is no dispute that the pilots saw a group of objects with targeting information on a singular physical object from the video source.


Love your references for these claims. They're so thorough.




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