On: Apple announces full Swift rewrite of the Foundation framework (2022)

[pvg]

Foundation was developed for the needs of EOF so it makes sense there was a version for the Java WebObjects. There's almost certainly NeXT-derived code in macOS/iOS with a longer pedigree and a bunch of it will probably outlast the Foundation rewrite. As software evolution goes, it's an astonishingly long run, no doubt. Especially for a technology that very nearly went extinct.

[jrochkind1 → pvg]

Huh, Foundation was developed for EOF? (Enterprise Object Framework; it was actually very much like Rails ActiveRecord). I did not realize that, I always figured it came first.

[pvg → jrochkind1]

I don't have a better reference than 'stuff I heard from people who worked on EOF'. The EOF Wikipedia page puts like this:

EOF 1.0 was the first product released by NeXT using the Foundation Kit

One way or the other, their development was closely connected/overlapping.

[pjmlp → jrochkind1]

There were already many Rails like frameworks when it came to be, I never understood the hype, specially since I was part of one written in TCL back in 1999, whose core team went on to create OutSystems in 2001.

[kibibu → pjmlp]

The "scaffold" demo really drove the hype.