Shout out to all the talented people here and for @dang for keeping things in check.
Beyond the western borders of this little town, the tech gold rush has both expanded to epic proportions, affecting all the economies in the world, and also gone through enough booms and busts that the phrase "gold rush" seems somehow off.
As more and more young'uns join and jaded veterans return to throng the tavern alike, it often seems to be on the brink of either exploding with the largest gun fight in history, or jumping the shark.
And yet, against all odds, it retains its original magnetism - drawing throngs that grow in number and diversity while seers like https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=patio11 and https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=tptacek continue to return - dispensing worldly wisdom worth its weight in gold from corner tables.
The secret is the man at the corner of the bar @dang, always around with a friendly smile and a towel on his shoulder. The only sheriff in the west who still doubles as the friendly bartender: always polite, always willing to break up a fight with kind words and clean up messes himself.
Yes a cold-hard look from him is all it takes to get most outlaws to back down, yes, his Colt-45 "moderator" edition is feared by all men, but the real secret to his success: his earnest passion (some call it an obsession) for the seemingly sisyphean task of sustaining good conflict - letting it simmer but keeping it all times below the boiling point based on "the code":
"Conflict is essential to human life, whether between different aspects of oneself, between oneself and the environment, between different individuals or between different groups. It follows that the aim of healthy living is not the direct elimination of conflict, which is possible only by forcible suppression of one or other of its antagonistic components, but the toleration of it—the capacity to bear the tensions of doubt and of unsatisfied need and the willingness to hold judgement in suspense until finer and finer solutions can be discovered which integrate more and more the claims of both sides. It is the psychologist's job to make possible the acceptance of such an idea so that the richness of the varieties of experience, whether within the unit of the single personality or in the wider unit of the group, can come to expression."
May the last great tavern in the West and it's friendly bartender-sheriff live long and prosper.
This is great. Can you give a citation?
> Marion Milner, 'The Toleration of Conflict', Occupational Psychology, 17, 1, January 1943
If any of you want to explore Marion Milner, the place to start is "A Life of One's Own"- a work of original genius: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Ones-Own-Marion-Milner/dp/041555.... Everyone says "think for yourself" but she actually did it. Oh and her brother won the Nobel Prize in physics. Quite a family.
It's definitely taken a different path than the one it was on c.2010 where any entrepreneur was effectively worshipped. I'm not sure if it's better or worse. The site rarely brings me joy. If it disappeared tomorrow I wouldn't miss it, but I wouldn't know what to do with myself.
And yet here we are.
Differing perspectives: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22the%20orange%20site%22
But in practice I find Twitter entirely reasonable. My feed is arguably much higher quality than HN for my purposes.
Do the same with HN and you will see the good parts of it are entirely reasonable as well.
Taken as a whole, I don't see how Twitter as a whole is reasonable. In my opinion, on average it is probably the most toxic, inane popularity contest of any social media.
That said, this is a Thanks HN post, so I don't really care to make this a whole discussion about the blue site vs the orange site.
Conversely I don't know of a single person who uses Twitter who doesn't believe it to be an absolute hellsite of inane misery.
Twitter is quite self aware, HN... not so much.
I’m personally of the opinion that even things which get flagged on here are pretty tame compared to the rest of the internet (e.g. reddit)
But in many cases, some dead comments are from extremely toxic people in a rare moment of sanity.
The simplicity of presentation on Hacker News is one of its defining virtues.
Almost always. A quick scan often tells me whether the article is worth reading or not: topic and quality.
I hold off on responding to anything until I have read the article, though.
That way, the root page is the main page, the comments are children and the link and other links from the comments are children of it's comments page
How pure and unencumbered is that?
Best thing the U.S. has come up with. (Landing on the Moon was cool too though.)
Taking a day to just be around family and feel grateful for what you have, is worth doing.
Here is a well moderated safe haven for technical and business discussion, incredibly popular yet holding itself to a higher intellectual standard than the rest of the internet, where I can ask questions, share opinions, learn from others, publicise my startup or pet project and be taken seriously.
Long live Hacker News.
I wanted to make gentle fun of this then realized I feel exactly the same way
Thanks to everyone here for kipping some sanity and wisdom in the wilderness of the Internet, thanks to dang for making it possible and thanks to the person that more than a decade ago recommended me to visit at least once per day the front page of HN. The latter definitely changed my professional career.
I enjoy reading these annual appreciation notes.
Thank you HN and thank you Dang and YC!!!
I actually enjoy the times someone takes the time to correct me instead of just downvoting.
That’s exactly why it’s a great place to hang around though.
Lastly, thank you to the users here that continually teach me new things, and for helping me see the world and myself in different ways. I'm a better person because of this site, your posts, and your comments. Stay classy out there!
It's all one big ecosystem, and I quite like this corner of the reef
The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature that they cannot fail to penetrate and even soften the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign states to invite and provoke their aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict; while that theater has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised, nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American people. I do, therefore, invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the heavens. And I recommend to them that, while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty hand to heal the wounds of the nation, and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.
"Time out of mind at this turn of the seasons when the hardy oak leaves rustle in the wind and the frost gives a tang to the air and the dusk falls early and the friendly evenings lengthen under the heel of Orion, it has seemed good to our people to join together in praising the Creator and Preserver, who has brought us by a way that we did not know to the end of another year. In observance of this custom, I appoint Thursday, the twenty-sixth of November, as a day of Public Thanksgiving for the blessings that have been our common lot and have placed our beloved State with the favored regions of earth -- for all the creature comforts: the yield of the soil that has fed us and the richer yield from labor of every kind that has sustained our lives -- and for all those things, as dear as breath to the body, that quicken man's faith in his manhood, that nourish and strengthen his spirit to do the great work still before him: for the brotherly word and act; for honor held above price; for steadfast courage and zeal in the long, long search after truth; for liberty and for justice freely granted by each to his fellow and so as freely enjoyed; and for the crowning glory and mercy of peace upon our land; -- that we may humbly take heart of these blessings as we gather once again with solemn and festive rites to keep our Harvest Home.
Can't recommend it enough, and it's on PBS digital through Prime Video now.
Walk right in it's around the back, just a half a mile from the railroad track…
I'm a passive reader here, but I wanted to say thank you to all of you who share their knowledge and wisdom and help me to learn new things on a daily basis.
The comments here are almost always more informative than the link itself.
The opportunities that this industry has provided me.
I’m grateful for my wife.
I’m grateful for my health.
I am a long-time lurker. This is the best place to know and learn about the latest and greatest. I am thankful for all the posts and comments. I echo the overall sentiment here that this is the only place on the internet where I would rather be. My day starts with HN and ends with it.
Thanks to the fantastic team at HN, which keeps everything running smoothly.
There has not been a bad mood that I could not eventually distract away by either reading comments or getting actively involved in some conversation here. Rarely do I walk away from a day of browsing HN without new project ideas dancing in my head.
HN has also been invaluable for validating certain technical concepts over the years. All in all, I certainly owe this community much more than it owes me.
Thankful for my few friends - of all I’d intentionally pushed away, as to not have them witness my medical condition rapidly deteriorate the me they knew - who have continued to care about me, & attempt stay in my life.
Thankful I can still piss as biology intended, & that I’m not in a wheelchair or similar mobility device. Sorry for the crassness of this remark for those who can’t & do need said devices, but either of those two for me, & I would soon take exit of our life.
Now over half of my young life completely encompassed by extreme pain, discomfort, & debilitating symptoms. Career path likely irreparably derailed, despite hard earned full ride scholarships. Doctors who didn’t give a fuck until it was near too late, & now more doctors who still mostly don’t give a fuck.
Be thankful for your health & able body if you have it. For those who do, I advise making a plan, grounded in reality, as to whether or not you want to fight an unfathomably painful & endlessly hopeless battle, should one ever come your way - or to be at peace with the fate behest (is this a properly used word. I don’t know, too much brain fog right now) you, & a plan to leave our world in the most comfortable way. Before slowly watching your life’s achievements fade away into nothingness, & you/your friends having to watch you wither away into nothing more than the most physically & mentally fragile husk of who(m?) you once were.
Take care of your bodies, desk nerds. & should the need arise, seek treatment as early as possible, & use whatever means necessary to get it.
Edit: For visibility & my principles - though I am not one of them, I am very NOT thankful for the active culture war currently raging against the LGBTQ+whatever folk who live in our (US) country. Let them live their fucking lives, & de-platform the psychopaths trying to genocide them.
For young people like me who are new to the tech industry, this year has been a realization that tech is anything other than "a rollercoaster that only goes up." But I am so thankful for everyone in this community, and ones like it, for bringing so much rigor, growth, and opportunity to the world. I'm thankful for my co-workers, customers, readers, and friends.
Wishing you many good times with loved ones.
We've got the 'rona again, so pretty small one today. If you're celebrating with loved ones and friends, give them a hug. Wishing I could do that. Don't let those important yet small moments pass.
Hope you feel better soon and can give your loved ones many hugs again.
This community has inspired me to learn and build stuff – just for the heck of it.
I just wish you folks all the happiness and strength in the world.
Happy Thanksgiving ♥
This year my boys and I are traveling out of state to a waterpark just to try something different.
If anything fails, remember, I wish you a truly happy thanksgiving, and I hope you can finish this day better than you start it.
Any recipes to share?