2. Society says “Oh no, you are suffering, let us help you”.
3. Instead of fixing society’s ills that caused this person’s suffering (too hard right now), society says “Hey you know that medicine you take all the time? We’ll inject you with this and then it won’t work any more. Now you can enjoy reality!”
4. The doctors leave and the patient is once again alone. Patient kills themselves.
5. No more suffering! Society solved the problem!
At the same time, I can see this as being a useful tool for saving lives.
It's funny I'm seeing this actually. I'm actually on kratom right now, I bought some earlier today. I didn't really want to, I don't want to be on kratom because it's opiod like and expensive and can cause dependence. But I was getting so down that I was seriously worried I was going to kill myself, so I took it as an antidepressant.
I suffer from treatment resistant depression. Part of it is genetic (depression runs in my family) and I'm sure a lot of it is environmental (being minor attracted in our current society fills me with feelings of self-loathing and worthlessness) After trying a bunch of different SSRIs and SNRIs, I finally found a treatment that worked: Ketamine. I went to a clinic and got infusions, then was given take-home troches. It was amazing. Every time I started to get depressed (every few weeks), I would take a troche and abort that cycle of depression. My friends couldn't believe it. That combined with self-practiced CBT has really helped.
However I recently moved and no clinic in my area will offer prescription ketamine due to concerns about abuse. Okay, whatever...I could go in and get infusions. But every infusion costs ~$500 per session. Ketamine is prescribed off-label for depression, so insurance does not cover it. That's because nobody has funded the clinical trials necessary for the FDA to approve ketamine for depression. Despite the fact that everybody knows it's one of the best treatments for depression, it's generic, so drug companies have no profit incentive. There's esketmaine, but I've heard mixed reviews and popular opinion seems to point that it isn't nearly as effective.
I wonder how many millions and millions of people, including people who are using opiods as an antidepressant, would benefit if some group (maybe the government) would just pay to get ketamine on-label for depression, and thus covered by insurance. I feel like that would do more to lower opioid abuse than a million high school DARE presentations...
1. Some people want to do cocaine or ecstasy a couple of times a year.
2. They don’t die from a fentanyl overdose.
Vaccines to save us from ourselves ? I’m not sure about this one.
Why tackle the effect when we need to address the root causation ? Why is a person abusing opiates to begin with and how can we help them without enabling them further?
The psychological dependency on drugs should be treated, but this is much harder problem tightly coupled with larger societal problems. I would love to read research on differences in drug problems in countries with less societal stress and more happiness vs more stress and less happiness.
In the end fentanyl is simply a painkiller, people choose to get high to run away from their life problems. In the mind of patient, the risk of getting OD and becoming drug addict is a better decision, rather than facing grim reality of their daily life and future prospects.
This vaccine seems to be a promising tool to preventing people in treatment (or people who come across fentanyl by accident) from overdosing. In principle at least, that seems like a positive thing for me. It's not a silver bullet, but what is? Addiction is a hard problem...
Current addiction treatments tend to approach the problem from multiple directions, but in the end it has to be a decision from the affected person.
If this vaccine actually works it can give them a leg up while they explore the underlying psychological problems that led them to substance addiction in the first place.
> The anti-fentanyl antibodies were specific to fentanyl and a fentanyl derivative and did not cross-react with other opioids, such as morphine. That means a vaccinated person would still be able to be treated for pain relief with other opioids
The idea is to remove the fentanyl's effect while keeping the effect of other opioids that are harder to get. The issue with fentanyl isn't the drug use itself, it's the fact that it's too potent for the level of carelessness of your typical dealer/junkie. They can still get high on heroin with a lesser risk of dying.
I don't understand why they keep bringing this up when they talk about fentanyl. Vitamin D doses are measured in micrograms. The daily recommended dose is 10 micrograms. Can you accidentally ingest 2 milligrams of Vitamin D? Unlikely; the pills with the maximum dose are listed at 5000 IU, which translates to 0.125 mg. You'd need to swallow 16 such pills, and that requires quite a deliberate act.
Because when the lethal dose is 2 mg, it's very easy for a careless dealer to make a bad mix and kill their customers. Fentanyl is cheap so you can cut everything with it to make it "stronger", but then you have some end user that usually consumes weaker stuff getting a deadly dose of fentanyl by accident.