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Map of the Internet (dev.sarl)
217 points by Group_B on Nov 11, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 65 comments


I put my IP in, and it put a blue marker way off on the left in the middle of the black... now I know it is a bit of a joke to leave New Zealand off maps, but geeze :)


Switch off Tor. You are in the dark net.


It might just be loading slowly. Mine was black for a bit then loaded here in the US.


Could be 'afk'?


Taiwan (Province of China)

https://ipv4.dev.sarl/@zoom=10&ip=203.187.74.93

Interesting that a Taiwan IP range would be listed as "Province of China".


As others have noted, this is a legalese/formality issue (copied from ISO-3166), not a political statement. Note that IP ranges from provinces in mainland China are listed as "China", not "Province of China" (e.g. https://ipv4.dev.sarl/@zoom=16&ip=203.187.74.93). Additionally, the formal name of Taiwan is "Republic of China", so the loophole for formal purposes, as others have mentioned, is that the term "China" is ambiguous.

I think the more interesting thing is that Crimean IPs are listed as part of Russia (e.g. https://ipv4.dev.sarl/@zoom=16&ip=77.121.55.93). Practically speaking Crimea operates as province of Russia nowadays, but I believe formally/diplomatically most countries still recognize it as part of Ukraine. That's almost a reversal of Taiwan, which operates as an independent country in practice, but for formal/diplomatic purposes is considered as part of "One China".


Other than the standard people mentioned, there are also the "1992 consensus" [1] which intentionally made the word "China" ambiguous.

One possible interpretation is there's a thing called "de jure China", and both P.R.China and R.O.China (Taiwan) can claim themselves as legit. It's just de facto R.O.China happens to control only one province within China with is Taiwan (maybe plus some islands from Fujian).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Consensus

Related topics:

One China Policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_China

Taiwan Independence Movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_independence_movement



>ISO country name follows UN designation (due to political status of Taiwan within the UN)


Site is kinda dying (at least in my region of IP) but I looked up .sarl: it's like .gmbh or .ltd but French.


I was surprised that there is a TLD for sàrl, given that it is only used in some french-speaking countries. Interesting.


Still most useful than `.ninja`.


I'm holding out for .rockstar


Still it is likely more used than .srl, which is the equivalent for Italy and Romania.


If you really want to cause a stir: for zooming in deep, use one of those ML algos to create random human face avatars and randomly assign names and fake stats to them.

One of the ad techs lurking here can probably even help you switch out the ML fakes for the real thing. :)


The "you are here" marker doesn't appear very accurate. It placed me in North America, but I'm in Sweden...

Edit: zooming in it actually places me in Sweden and even gets my ISP right. But still categorises me as North America. Did geography change while I slept?


Probably due to IP transfers between regions.

The original /8 was assigned to ARIN (which handles IP addresses in the US), and then later a more specific subnet (like a /16) was transferred to RIPE (which handles the European region).

So while the big block is correctly shown as North America, the smaller ones shouldn't be.


Looks like it just takes the category with he highest share of a block to label that block when you zoom out.


I assumed the initial marker is placed where the website is hosted from, not where the client is connecting from.

(For me it was also in North America whereas I am in the Netherlands.)


I looked up my university's /8 block, it's listed as North America, Hungary, BME.


TIL that Ford Motor Company owns a very large number of very large IP blocks



Well:

> The evaluation fee is US$185,000. Applicants will be required to pay a US$5,000 deposit fee per requested application slot when registering. The deposit will be credited against the evaluation fee. Other fees may apply depending on the specific application path. See the section 1.5 of the Applicant Guidebook for details about the methods of payment, additional fees and refund schedules.

* https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/global-support/faqs...

There are cars that are more expensive than that, so setting up a new (g)TLD is really not that difficult or expensive for any moderately large organization.

At this point, just about any random word in the dictionary has probably been made into a TLD:

* https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt


That is cheaper than some ".com" domain people are trying to sell.


Yeah a lot of surprising companies own a large amount of IP blocks.

USPS for example - https://ipinfo.io/AS5774


It is called early adopters. As in: in the 80s (??) A random admin wrote a well written email and got what he wanted for free. Now they are worth millions.


My company owns some large IP blocks from a while back; they are mulling over selling them since they aren't in use. But then someone internal says "what if we need them for XYZ", so the sale is delayed. Easier to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.


What do they intend to do with them?


Just parking.


Park a Model T on each one.


It's astonishing that N.A. has over half of the IPv4 allocations! My country doesn't even appear until zoom level 5


I found 192.168.0.1 and I am now convinced that everybody is an American (it was listed as an American IP address). /s


We are all American on this [God-forsaken] day

;)


Probably an artifact of IANA, ICANN, IETF, ISOC all being U.S. run organizations. For better or worse.


Not when it correctly tracks 10.0.0.0/8


172.16.0.0/12 should also be marked as reserved for private use.


Seems hugged. It was loading two minutes ago but now all I get is HTTP 520/525/nothing.


Looking forward to the source code, getting all those IP ranges in realtime when zooming in is impressive and something I couldn't get working



My Australian IP is listed as North America.


Both my phone and computer show in Australian subnets however when I had cloudflair's 1.1.1.1 app enabled on my phone it was showing within a Chinese range?


thats not concerning at all!


500 server error

Sounds about right.


Has anyone made one of these for ipv6? Or is that infeasible?


IPv6 wouldn't fit in a screen. Best way to do it would be trace routing and making some connections.

If you type "how many ipv6 addresses" to google you get this weird number:

"340 trillion trillion trillion IP addresses"


>IPv6 wouldn't fit in a screen.

Yes, it would. It isn't any different from the linked article. You just zoom out until it fits.


In an IPv6 map, the entire IPv4 space would take up exponentially less area than a single IP address takes up in the IPv4 map. I don't know how IPv6 addresses get allocated, but at that zoom level it would be quite empty.


Every level you zoom out lets you see exponentially more addresses.


Hey are they able to get a live 'snapshot' of their map for their favicon ? Or do you think they just took an average map representation ?


Is there a way to export all of my countries IP ranges so that I can add it into a nginx filter to better protect my self hosted website?


Maybe you are looking for Maxmind Geo IP [1]. Happy if anyone proposes better alternatives. I haven't worked with this for a couple of years.

1. https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip2-services-and-databases


Zoom performance terrible on FF for anyone else?


Yes. Zooming in seems to be ok, but zooming out misbehaves.


Like that UI/color palette


Very impressive ... I hope I can get a /24.


I’m seeing Poland and Spain as North America?


They're probably part of a group where North America is majoritary, so it all gets lumped up as North America depending on the zoom level


I miss Quarterman’s newsletter.


What was it?



So what will be future use? :D


I’d love to see IPv6


I thought this was going to be a link to https://xkcd.com/195/


archived at https://xkcd.com/195/ :)


Very cool




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