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Maybe Zuck should put himself on PIP as it’s obvious he needs support. He had a money printing machine and managed to fuck it up.


I worked at Yahoo! when the company offered to acquire Facebook for $1.4 billion.

Most thought Zuck was a fool to pass on that. He 300x’d it in 10 years.


He is still a fool. He says he wakes up everyday felling like he is getting punched in the stomach. What more proof do you need?


You don't have to like the man but, I think it's pretty clear that running any global social media company is miserable and filled with impossible decisions + people who will hate you no matter what choices you make.

It sounds like many social media CEOs would agree that it's like getting punched in the stomach every day


I am worth 1/billion of his net worth and every morning when I wake up I feel like I am getting punched in the stomach.


I wish this giant boot grinding me down into nothingness would allow me to stand up enough to get punched in the stomach for a bit.


I had that for a while, thought it was bad till one day the giant boot got taken off and discovered it was hiding a rotten diseased foot. Now I dream about the good times when there was a boot on that foot.


I hope you have more than several dozen dollars :)


Toss a coin to your witcher


Oh, the poor, poor guy. /sarcasm

He's had every chance to be a decent human being and he has rejected it.

Facebook has been a force for tremendous evil in the world, and now he's trying to push this bullshit proprietary metaverse crap on us, just because.

People hate him for who he is. He feels bad, and then continues doing the things that make us hate him, and that makes it worse.


>People hate him for who he is. He feels bad, and then continues doing the things that make us hate him,

You truly hate Mark Zuckerberg huh, you must live a great life


He has the opportunity to opt out of this life and coast by practically every day.

> many social media CEOs

"We experts of X recommend X."


Then why do it? What for?

It's not like he won't be a millionaire if he just owns a large part of Facebook instead of running it.

I don't understand your argument.


What argument? I don't know why he does it. But I don't envy the role and I'm saying I think that his 'feels like getting punched in the stomach' statement is probably a true statement about what his role feels like.


Yes yes, we all know you would wake up like a Sultan in his harem if you were facebook CEO


PIP is based on current performance. Not past.


And just think all it took was a couple of genocides, breaking society and becoming one of the most despised people in the world.


I’m not really sure if I agree with this argument against Facebook. It’s true that Facebook had a part in this, but the same can be said for any kind of media for any given historical conflict.

Here’s an article describing the effect radio had on the rise of Hitler: https://daily.jstor.org/an-affordable-radio-brought-nazi-pro...

A few years before these genocides, western media were praising Facebook for its role in the uprisings in the Middle East. It was seen as a force for good, allowing people to self organise against dictatorial regimes.

Hell, back in the day the printing press pretty much brought down all of the power structures at the time, because suddenly people had more free access to information.


I think there are some pretty meaningful differences here where Facebook has been repeatedly made aware of these problems prior to the fact and has consistently responded in the exact same manner by refusing to take any meaningful action and only trying to solve things in so much as it is a PR problem for them.

It wasn’t even indifference, they actively undercut and mislead all of the supposed checks and balances they assured everyone were enough both internally and externally. When confronted they have lied to their internal teams, they have lied to lawmakers, they have lied to investors. It is always the same response. There is no room left to leave this as a “mistake that fell through the cracks”.

It’s a pattern of behaviour that now spans many years and many incidents. All it has shown is that they appear both incapable and unwilling of reform and should be treated as such.


Yes, but evil people started cutting the internet and the show had to continue (more restricted) on other stages. They learned nothing from Cambridge Analityca scandal.


Genocides?



Yes genocides. Facebook played a pivotal role in the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar. They even admitted to that, but nobody gives a flying f.


Snail mail played a vital role in the administrations of Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Is that different or comparable?


It's different because nobody is in charge of snail mail which is merely a technology. Internet platforms have designs, incentives and people in charge for each aspect of their operation. They can chose what to amplify or not. It's been a convenient excuse of internet platforms to characterize themselves as generic technologies that nobody is responsible for or has ownership of, which isn't true.

The equivalent to snail mail is something like https, smtp or ssl, not FB.


Snail mail is offered by specific companies or organisations. Eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Commissariat_for_Co...


No that's different. What would be closer was IBM working with the Nazis:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust


www.washingtonpost.com Facebook sued by Rohingya refugees for role in alleged Myanmar genocide


It is still printing money though.


Yep. FB has issues, but people are dancing on its grave a little too early.


He's too busy attending private gladiator-like fights (which the article mentions, btw). I know the FB pay is pretty damn good, but I guess it still sucks to see your CEO doing that while your job with the company might be on the line.




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