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Gmail’s new look (gmailblog.blogspot.com)
298 points by johnnytee on Nov 1, 2011 | hide | past | web | favorite | 142 comments



One thing I dislike in the new Google styling is the general lack of contrast. It makes navigation a bit slower due to delayed object recognization for power users.

Everything just takes milliseconds longer to sink in.


This is my biggest complaint as well. The new features of the UI are great, but it still looks pretty bad. There's a lot of white space and very little contrast between elements are groups of elements. The "Compose Mail" but just sort of hangs there awkwardly. The top row of action buttons are aligned to the left, so at higher resolutions there's just a chunk of whitespace to their right, even though the inbox itself fills the entire width of the container.


On a related note, I find it very difficult to distinguish between the white background of unread message rows from the very-slightly gray background of read rows. (Probably worth noting that I'm mildly colorblind though.)

The bold subject on unread messages helps, but it isn't enough for my eyes.


I'm not colorblind at all, and I have a hell of a time distinguishing between read and un-read mail in the new look.


It's all gray. The only color is the compose button which is red.


I think it's a general trend. They were complaining about it on a panel session of IUE2011 (http://www.iue2011.com/presentation_stateofux.html)


I'd add to that:

1) using the page space for fixed "app-like" UI instead of just presenting the page. UI on top of UI really doesn't make using their pages better for me. The scroll bars get smaller, the effective vertical space of my screen usable for content goes away exactly at time the screens on notebooks get always less vertical pixels. Things go horribly wrong recently. Compare 1973:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto

therefore:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3184798

2) using the BIG RED BUTTON for creating a post! Really? RED like "stop sign" red? Like a "SELF DESTRUCT" red? Aww.


I don't understand using red to mean something other than "stop" or "cancel" either.

It reminds me of the first time I tried to use a cell phone: I didn't own one and had borrowed one for a trip. I could not figure out how to turn it on. I kept pressing the green "TALK" button and nothing happened. I assumed the battery had died. Turns out I was supposed to press the red button labeled "END" which is the last button I would think to press.


At the same time, I find it to be a lot easier on the eyes. As a "power user" spending a lot of my day staring at my inbox, I like this a lot better. Pretty soon all of the buttons will be second-nature anyway.


The new search dropdown is what I am excited about. I know that the operators were always there and advanced search was a click away, but what can I say, I am lazy.


I'm lazy too, and that's why I prefer to type in keywords rather than having to tab-tab-tab-tab-tab until I get to the relevant field or worse, having to grab my mouse to select the kind of search I want to do. It seems it will still be possible to type directly keywords in the field so it's okay. I hope they also let all the key-binding (for instance, '/' to focus the searchbox).

Now, let's hope that the next step is not to make Gmail just a Google+ app, like they did with Google Reader.


Hopefully they'll leave in the ability to just type in your boolean search. I prefer that method as well and send myself a lot of email so I'm often searching for stuff like [from:me has:attachment]


using a search dropdown just adds those operators automatically, so manual typing should work exactly the same


Which is the best way to learn those operators. The shortcut "/" to get to the search box is probably what I use the most, and writing "from:john to:mailing-list" is such a great time saver, if you compare to other mail clients.


What I use the most is [j]/[k] to move between email from the inbox while using [x] to select some messages which i [shift]+[i] to mark them as read and the [e] to archive. I think I easily do that with half of my emails for which reading the subject (and sometimes also the little preview) is enough to know that I don't have to read them.

This is what makes Gmail very powerful for me.


I totally agree, except that I tend to use [y] to archive, since it also does the "right thing" from views other than the Inbox (e.g. removing label "Todo" from selected emails when viewing all emails with label "Todo").

I also use [ and ] a lot. From message view, they archive the current message and immediately move to the previous/next message in the current list.


I use J/K to browse so much that I sometimes forget it's not built into all websites. "What do you mean I can't hit the letter "O" to open that link??"


Exactly my first thoughts! Like it a lot!


Seems like they addressed a lot of the initial gripes people had with the new UI preview. I'm hopeful that similar evolution will be coming to Google Reader.


The thing I'm most impressed about is the speed at which this has come out.

It seems like gmail has previously changed at a glacial speed (for better/worse).

I hope they continue to improve the UX of gmail on a continuous basis.


Google is in the midst of the largest redesign in its history. There may be more to come. Here is a cool talk about this by Jon Wiley, Lead Designer for Google Search: http://vimeo.com/29965463 He talks about GMail around 11min10s


It gets improved continuously internally, not sure why they're slow to push the changes to the public version.


Each time Google updates Gmail, there is another hit on accessibility for visually impaired users. With each new version, zooming makes the content area smaller and smaller, while making the (significantly less useful) editing elements and other mostly uninteresting things larger and larger. Adding more padding and reducing contrast is completely at odds with accessibility (and, potentially, a good desktop mail experience). I think I can still get by with Gmail at high zoom, but one or two more changes and I’ll have no choice but to jump ship to something else (or go fulltime with Outlook, which is overkill for personal mail).

It makes me really sad to see that accessibility is getting worse at Google, not better. The problem isn't limited to Gmail, it's also now in core search and probably just about everything else since the G+ wave of updates. :(


I've been thinking of jumping the Google ship these days. Dropbox killed google docs for me, G+ didn't attract enough of my friends for it to be worth my time, Google reader went from my favorite waste of time, to outta sight, outta mind, Gmail got rid of my custom color scheme, and makes it impossible to read big long email threads all at once, and I can't even tell which emails I'v read the contrast is so effin bad. The only thing I'd have a hard time leaving is chrome, but I just bought my first mac, and Safari doesn't seem too bad. Google is still a powerhouse, but I wonder if they didn't just do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE


I use a netbook for my gmail. This new UI is, once again, a big negative from me because of all the wasted "white space".

I hate this love affair we have at the moment with white space. To me, it's wasted space. I guess I just hate scrolling or maybe I should just move to Asia.


At 0:17 in the video, they resize the browser window to netbook dimensions, and all the whitespace automatically disappears.


That's so much nicer. I need to trick it into doing that all the time.


Oh. Just found the "Display Density" options.


Took me ten minutes to realize that there are now 2 gear icons on the page. Was continually clicking the one in the "global header", but there is second one on the page where the Display Density options are located. How's that for bad UI design?


There is an option for 'display density' in the top right which is very neat. Compresses everything to fit way more emails per page.


I use a normal 15inch laptop and that wasted white space was an issue for me. Hopefully with the new theme, the 'compact' theme is compact enough.


We know that you use Gmail from a variety of screen sizes and devices, so now the spacing between elements on the screen will automatically change based on the kind of display you’re using.

Looks like it will re-size elements automatically based on screensize.


Inevitably when you develop web technology at scale you end up asking the question of whether you should degrade the experience of the common case to make it ~comfortable for, e.g., netbooks.

Usually the answer, at least for a service like GMail, is to just ignore the netbooks. I actually think that's the right answer almost always, but I would absolutely love to hear the opposing view, as this is a position that I feel I don't fully understand.


Looking at our traffic, the "common case" is fairly low resolution displays: 1280x800 (25%) 1024x768 (16%) 1366x768 (14%)

Luckily the new Gmail interface has three settings for display density.


It's basically just a styling issue though. Couldn't they just provide a "netbook style"? Consider that tablets are about the same size and tablets are probably going to be the "common case". Unless of course they are providing a specific "tablet style".

Another poster indicated that the theme automatically resized based on window dimensions. I'm not seeing the new theme (merely the "Preview" theme in the list - there's a "Preview (Dense)" in the theme list as well).


> Couldn't they just provide a "netbook style"?

How did we lose sight of the fact that this is the entire purpose of stylesheets? To separate the display of information for various devices/platforms/needs. So yea, they should provide a "netbook style", and any other. That's really the point of it all.

> I'm not seeing the new theme

When it rolls out to your account, you'll see a little black notification bar/box in the bottom-right asking you if you want to try the new theme.


"How did we lose sight of the fact that this is the entire purpose of stylesheets? To separate the display of information for various devices/platforms/needs. So yea, they should provide a "netbook style", and any other. That's really the point of it all."

Seems to me, "a couple of years ago". That's when any real innovation in CSS seemed to cease.*

* I can hear people arguing already. By "innovation in CSS", I don't mean "cool, awesome tricks" like "being able to render strange bullets in pure CSS by bastardizing four divs, a span, and a dozen lines of stylesheet", or "a bargraph library that outputs pure CSS".

Those are cool, awesome tricks, to be sure, hacks, but the very definition of "solving the wrong problem".


The theme does automatically resize. At the smallest size it's about as compact as the old theme. Another nice space saving measure is that you can minimize chat and widgets to little buttons in the bottom left.

You can also force the theme to use the smallest size via an option in the menu.

The new theme won't show up as a simple entry in the theme menu as it replaces all the old themes. Some have been remade or ported, but they're clearly running on the new theme engine. Alas, the Android theme no longer changes the Gmail UI font to Android Sans.


I don't know what the stats are, but netbooks (and tablets) are becoming increasingly popular. I don't think you can just default to ignoring them anymore.

I'm also glad to see the 'mobile first' idea gaining traction, with css/html5 frameworks coming out based on that. There are more and more use cases where a mobile site that gracefully expands to desktop size works out better than the inverse.


Netbook sales have stagnated and have been passed by tablets. They are expected to continue to decline.

As for tables, most users use dedicated apps so this design change won't affect them. Google usually does a custom web interface for tablets/mobile anyway to make it more touch friendly.


I had similar problems on my small screen with Google Voice. I found a Greasemonkey script which solves most of them. Once Google starts forcing me to use the new Gmail interface, I'll probably make something similar for Gmail.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/114048


I get the point that designers want to design and fiddle with everything like little children, constantly, regardless of how other people have actual work to do regardless of their playtime.

However constantly changing any user interface is a fantastic way to make customers furious when they can no longer find things and have to stop to adapt, over and over.

Why not allow the old look to function for years instead of weeks or months. There is no way you are going to convince me google doesn't have the resources to do that, it's not a massive internal change, it's a visual layer.

I really need to make a point to switch to Thunderbird and imap in 2012 - google is getting on my last nerve on every product they offer.


> However constantly changing any user interface is a fantastic way to make customers furious when they can no longer find things and have to stop to adapt, over and over.

Can you explain what you mean by "constantly changing"? It's clear that Google is going through a big visual refresh and rolling all of it's products over to one new unified design, but that's something that hasn't been done in a long time, it's not a constant state of significant change.

> Why not allow the old look to function for years instead of weeks or months. There is no way you are going to convince me google doesn't have the resources to do that, it's not a massive internal change, it's a visual layer.

Years is a long time for Google to have to hold onto old code and support both versions (as well as the mechanisms to allow the both to exist). And as you say, it's "just" a visual change, for most users it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt to. And I'm sure that if you had specific complaints about its usability, the team at Google working on this would be happy to hear from you.


For every old user that hates the change, there are a million people who have never used gmail before and will like it when they switch. Why should progress be held back because you can't adapt?

(I don't really like Google's new style either, but it doesn't really upset me or damage my experience in any way.)


Unlikely. People don't use gmail because of the user interface, they use it because they are locked in with their email address. New users will pick what they have heard off, or what their friends use.


Tons of people started using gmail exactly because of the user interface.

For your second point, if you really mean "locked in" (as in "my company has outsourced their email to gmail") you can always use an IMAP client.

But I guess this is just a small typo and you mean "logged in" - in which case I'm not sure I can follow? Is your point that people don't like the user interface but use it anyway because their friends use it?! Not sure I buy. If no-one forces you to use gmail, don't use it. Or, again, use an IMAP client.


Not to mention keyboard shortcuts! Navigating with my keyboard seriously saves me tons of time everyday.


Also very handy for users who can't see the mouse well or rely on a screen reader.


I don't think I fully understand what you mean by locked in either. I'm assuming one meaning here:

There are a number of ways you can switch email addresses. You can set up a forwarder from the gmail address to wherever you want--over time this should rectify itself and in the case it doesn't, you're not really losing out on anything. Receive via Gmail, respond via your new email.

I used to use Gmail for the interface. When I received my invite, I'd never experienced anything like that in the browser. It was refreshing, cool and it worked extremely well. I'm not 'locked' into those addresses in any sense of the word and never have been.


No, I meant locked in. Hey, I enjoy the gmail UI as well, but most of my non-tech friends do not care. This is all I was saying.

And yes, I mean locked in, because if everybody knows you at tim@yahoo.com, or reg@hotmail.com, you can just move to gmail easily. Sure, you can setup forwarders, email everyone, but this is a non trivial step for most people. I am confused why people here can not see this.


I'm pretty certain the UI does matter to more than you make out. I just don't think they know how to express it. From what I've seen, getting the UI right is half the battle--look at MySpace vs Facebook.

Though I am certainly seeing where you're coming from with second part. It is a hassle that I don't think most would embark upon. I don't know but it seems switching emails could be a problem that needs solving. There certainly are ways I can think of that would make this easier.


I wonder why can't interface design be more granular, taking many little steps to transform from one look to another over months and years?

We don't know when someone is aging from day to day, but if we see them year to year then we can see the change.


It has been gradually changing. At some point I suddenly could not find Contacts. Turns out it was hidden under Mail.


Based on what I've seen from this blog post, my initial impression is that I don't think I'm going to like the new Gmail UI (I haven't been able to use it, so this is based on the preview). But I'll be perfectly happy when they arrive.

One of the many reasons I switched to GMail was the fact that they didn't charge to access mail from a POP3 (and now IMAP). Neither protocol is perfect (or perhaps it's the implementation in the variety of mail apps that support it), but the bottom line is that there are limitless numbers of clients that support those protocols, which allows me to abandon the web platform if I choose to.

When my bride complains about the next Facebook UI overhaul, I always think of this. To clarify, I'm always stuck thinking of Facebook in terms of old-school online service like AOL with features that fit better in the 21st century...I get that it's not e-mail+ or e-mail-. And I appreciate that it has a powerful API, the usage of which allows me to avoid the UI overhauls for the limited feature-set that I enjoy. But for e-mail, I still prefer the provider with the most options.

Count me in as perfectly fine with the new UI changes because I don't have to care if I don't like them.


Google Apps users, is there any way to permanently get rid of that black strip on the bottom right advertising the marketplace and now, the new look?


Check the element's class/id. Create a user stylesheet for your browser. Set the element to display:none. Profit.


Your best bet is probably to either find/build a userscript or just never close your tab.


I love the use of white space and the clean looks of Gmail, but it pains me to see when "UI designers" build an interface where 20% of the screen is taken up by useless objects.

I understand Google wants me to search and to use G+, but for user's sake, could you shove all that into 1 button and make it expand on click, so I could actually use my gmail screen for something like... answering emails.

Is this too much to ask? Google, the new Yahoo!?

p.s. No, the "compact" view doesn't really solve the problem. The objects get smaller and narrower, but the top banner still takes up all the premium space.


I agree that compact view doesn't solve the problem.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3184606

The problem are non-scrollable regions. What's next, status bar on the page and even more menus?


I've got an idea - a ribbon!


Non-scrollable regions containing ads and doodads are a killer for me.

Once this is forced on us, I will withdraw to a native client.



This is a very refreshing look. They've really simplified and glossed over a lot of the details of email going on underneath. I wonder if they were able to do this in a way that still has all the features of the original, or else what didn't make the cut.


I absolutely love the fact that you can control the density of the emails. This was a huge deal-breaker for me with the new theme and made me go back to the old theme. I'd be more than happy to try this new look out.


Me too. I understand that the new design is visually more appealing and creates a better mood and sense of elegance for the user, but Gmail was designed for large volume email users, and it continues to be the best client for that use case, beating out every native app (at least that I've ever tried). For this type of user, packing more information on the screen is a huge usability boost. That might mean that Andy Rutledge will declare it crap and make a redux version that doesn't jab his monkey brain with a sharp stick, but it certainly doesn't mean that proportion and whitespace can't be used effectively on a more compact level.


Are other Google products using the same layout engine or are they just copying the visual appearance? I'd like to have the same layout controls available in Docs, Calendar, Reader etc.


Gmail and Docs both use Closure Library

http://code.google.com/p/closure-library/


Still won't do partial word searches.

I use Gmail's backend but I can't use something that won't find “client” in “mynewclient”.

Amazing that a company known for search can't provide this simple and essential feature.


Meanwhile, my Google Apps account design is stuck 3 or 4 iterations ago.


The "preview" skin is available on Google Apps.

I activated it on a new domain yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/PoQ2F.png


this isn't the new skin. check out the video or log into a regular gmail.


where is that to be found?


Settings > Themes


thank you :-) (stupid me)


You may need to switch to the Rapid Release track, so you get new features earlier.


That did it. I thought I was being dense since I couldn't find the Theme setting anywhere. Thanks!


My google apps account got the new theme today.

In your domain admin panel, make sure that you opt into the quick release cycle as opposed to the scheduled one. Since they added that option, apps really doesn't lag any more feature-wise


It looks good. But the one thing I do notice is that the screenshots they've provided in the blog don't have a strip of ads running down the right hand side of the page. I'll be interested to see what it looks like with those in.


The video shows what ads look like on the right hand side.


They also have an ad over the list of emails in the inbox. As of yet I have not seen this ad in the actual product.


That ad has been there for years. You probably turned it off and forgot.


I don't like fixed position UI and scrolling within a small section. I prefer the whole page to scroll.

I am staying on the old version.


"temporarily".

If enough people hate this, they may slow the intro, but this may be the worst of all Clusts, the one that fails, but is hailed as a glorious success.


One unmentioned feature I loved is the ability to hide the chat and "invite" sidebars. On the lower left corner there's two unobtrusive buttons to toggle chat and invite (does anyone use that?) visibility.

I'm still waiting for a UI where I can just drag the components I need, a la browser's toolbars.


I have Gtalk and Tasks. I don't see why I can't put them on the same sidebar though. There should be an option for that?


The compact view looks much much nicer than the dense version of the preview theme they have now. Hopefully they'll add a few darker lines here and there too.


I'm very impressed. They really solved a lot of the issues I had with preview, such as multiple views for different screen sizes/resolutions.

Overall, the highly visual approach allows some hidden but useful features to emerge for the average user. However, I'm still on the fence about the excessive padding on the individual email items.


That padding is one of the only issues I have with the new layout. They should have left an option with the classic padding.


Did you watch the video? At 0:23, they click the little gear and it gives three different padding options.

When he selects "compact", it looks like the classic padding to me.


And... I was wrong :)

I just switched to the new look and (after changing the density to "Compact") I could not notice a difference on the padding.

It was a nice surprise.

Are you working on anything related to this design?


Even for a default template, the padding seems too much. Do you think it's the right default?


No, I'm commenting from experience on the preview that GMail had.

I'll watch the video when I get home, but Google is having a love affair with white space on this new layout, I'm doubtful about the padding on the email list.


Web-based "apps" have this great feature: updates require no work on the part of the user. And they have this terrible bug: updates require no work on the part of the user. With real (i.e. native) software, users get to decide. Important deadline approaching? Click "not now" for any and all updates.


Not about GMail, but does anyone else find Google's new blog templates to be annoying?

Chrome and Firefox optimized away much of the 500msec or less it takes for the page to render, and I don't want to have to spend that time watching the loading logo instead. Plus there are unavoidable animations for every page I try to access, but they're slow and make my netbook lag. I like being able to access the alternative views, but some of them seem clearly oriented towards photo blogs and turn into a pastiche of menus and grids, defeating the point of making the blog more usable for the reader (I have to try click on each one to see what it does?). /complain


I you use a mobile browser, you won't get the 0.5 sec delay, you'll immediately see "Dynamic Views are not supported on your device".


I mostly don't like it.

The left sidebar pops open, thats great!

However, read messages now have a lifeless grey background. The archive buttons have been replaced with icons. I can now only see half the amount of messages per screen due to the increased spacing.

Its disappointing.


Yeah, i have to say mostly when new UIs are introduced i generally like or prefer them, but this time round im not too happy.

Individual email threads are much harder to distinguish and due to the increase in information its harder to concentrate on the actual email body itself.


Just found how to adjust spacing - click on the gear in the upper right, and choose 'compact' from the display density. I'm much happier now that I've found that.


I use labels aggressively, but I monitor the numbers next to the labels to see if I have stuff coming in rapidly. When I tried the new GMail interface, it hid a bunch of important labels, requiring me to hover over that section to check if I was getting emails from particular projects and groups of people. That broke my email workflow, so I had to switch back to the old interface.

Hopefully, the comments I sent to the GMail team didn't fall on deaf ears - I really don't want to rework how I do email.

It must be tough working on a product that is so core to people's life and work. The changes in XCode never sit well with me either.


You can drag and drop labels out of the "More" box into the main view. I don't know if there's a limit to how many labels you can do that with though.


I've read the threads re: netbook but haven't seen my problem with the new look. I chose Compact for the density, but when I Reply, write a return email to someone - lo and behold, I can no longer scroll up to hit Send. It is hidden by the new icon bar - surely I am not the only netbook user with this problem? 10.2 inch screen, Gateway computer, Chrome browser...yeah.

Any ideas? I won't change this netbook to the 'new look' unless I can figure this out - guess I'll have to use Thunderbird or something. I'd rather not.

Thanks for any help.


They seem to have fixed the speed issues, which was my main gripe with gmail up to this point.

F'ing terrible in the usability department, though, especially on the default super-spaced view - it makes it much harder to scan quickly, and lets you see half the number of emails in the same vertical space.

The wide open space with no border between panes is also really annoying. Adding a border-right on the folder pane via firebug/whatever brings it almost back to being bearable.


I am liking the way their new design is going. In my opinion it is getting better and better. Conversations are much cleaner now and easier to read.


Help!! With all the none-scrolling stuff the new design has, on my netbook I have only some 600x300 pixels left to see the actual email message.

To read the email message is the reasong I am opening Gmail!

I don't care about a static user account bar, a static search bar, a static action buttons bar, a static folder and tags sidebar, etc. All that c%#p should be scrolling! It's a web page!

Is there any fix for this in the Gmail settings?


I am serious. Is there an option in the settings to make all elements scroll again? It's not like I am the only one who prefers a small screen.

The many position:fixed elements is a major flaw in this new design.


You can use a theme thats similar to that video. Its been available in the Themes section of Gmail settings for several months.

I find it a huge improvement.


Display density doesn't work in my browser (chrome on a Macbook pro) it says it only works on larger displays. Since my browser takes up all of my screen's real estate I don't understand why I am having this issue. As a side note, if you want to see a failure of customer service design, take a look at their feedback form page and count the number of unnecessary form fields.


Why don't the mail message rows alternate in color?


I hope there will be a way to keep the current look, all of the new themes from Google are terrible. (As many people have stated before.)


If they fix the black menu back to what it is now nice easy to read white background then I'll be glad to switch.


I love the new UI. The conversation view and the way the content flows together. It's just brilliant.

Only one complaint, I want to have a more loose display than the current one, I want 'Cozy' rather than 'Compact' regardless of my screen size. I should be able to change that somewhere.


Display Density is adjustable when clicking the gear icon button in the upper right for me. I keep it cozy, too.


On lower resolutions, the Comfortable and Cozy options aren't available. I much prefer the look of Comfortable but am forced to use Compact.


Ouch, that is unfortunate.


I hope they have tested this new design with some of the old "Gmail Labs" modules. I've been using the "Right-Side Chat" Labs module for a long time, and so far, using the Preview Theme, resizing my browser window sometimes causes me to lose my chat box.


I was looking to disable chat from the mail view for long. This helps. Mail == Mail now!


Personally I've switched to Offline Gmail in Chrome, it's super fast and minimal.


The conversation view is much, much better. I can't wait to check it out.


Um, does anyone know how to carry over a custom color scheme? or is it possible to create new custom colors, I don't see that option in themes...


I just tried it live, and I found that when reading a message the ads on the right are really too prominent. Is it just my impression?


That is the exact comment I gave to Google (via the feed back link) when I changed back to the "old" version.


What is an "ad"?


I meant advertising.

By the way, I found out that that effect is very marked only when zooming in the browser. At zoom=100% the ads aren't so invasive.


I'm seeing ads now, which I have blocked for a while with AdBlock. Does anyone know how to block ads in the new gmail?


EasyList subscription. This filter rule was triggered:

    &view=ad&


I'm not sure I understand. I'm have EasyList selected (and I just updated it). I'm still seeing the ads at the very top of the inbox. Are you saying "&view=ad&" was triggered? Or that I need to add this and it will be triggered?


It was triggered.


Damn it! The new Gmail is broken for me on Firefox Nightly on Debian Squeeze AMD64. I can't open any messages!


Beside losing Buzz I don't see much stuff happening. Besides, Google Reader is losing notes as well.


The biggest problem with the new UI is that it is entirely new. I have to learn it all over again.


The font on the 'compose' and 'send' buttons seem a little blurry to me


The blog doesn't work on iPhone 3G btw.


Google came out with this "Dynamic Styles" thing for Blogger a few weeks ago, which completely broke Blogger blogs for mobile devices, with no way to disable it.


Didn't work on my Android phone either.

I find it very interesting that a blog post written by a User Experience Designer on the new interface for a major web app doesn't work on mobile devices. Especially since Google also just launched GoMo.


Runs slow on Firefox. Don't upgrade.


I wonder what they did to break iPad flick to scroll on that blog post?


> Better search

I seriously hope they would _FINALLY_ include some sort of sub-string search as the lack of it really makes their mail search pretty much unusable unless you know exactly what you are looking for but I have a huge mail archive that goes a good 10+ years back - and that is google we are talking about, of all companies.

I would be totally fine if they limit me to just 2 or 3 sub-string searches a day and then just grep through my mails if that's what it takes but come on people, this feature has been requested ages ago and there surely are ways to implement this without breaking your servers' backs.


So how long before this shows up for Google Apps users? While I love Apps it's annoying that we're second hand users in terms of product releases.


I was somewhat surprised to learn: it's available immediately. 2 minutes after they posted on Twitter that it's now available to everyone, I followed their steps of closing Tasks and Chat windows, hit refresh, clicked the link. Done. (You may need to be on the Rapid Release track.)


I also had to close Tasks in bottom right corner, to see a button to switch to new design.


Wow I didn't realise Google had changed their tone RE: Apps users. Brilliant


So, is this real, or is this a spoof of the mess with Google Reader?

(PS: I know whether this is real; I'm just phrasing it this way for ironic impact.)




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