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So you join the chat, say nothing for months, and then pull the rug out from under your students?

If a professor joined a group chat, without any corrections to what was being shared, "no news is good news" would be the assumption.

Trying to read this was embarrassing.




After leaving the mormon church, I lost much of the attitudes that had been ingrained in me there, but one thing I didn't lose was a hatred for cheating.

> So you join the chat, say nothing for months, and then pull the rug out from under your students?

They pulled the rug out from themselves. Don't wanna fail? Then don't cheat.


Not all of what is going on here is cheating. The exams? Sure. The rest? If my professor was in a group chat, I would assume that what was going on was kosher if nothing was being said.

If my professor (now, seemingly) anonymously stays in a group chat without providing input...how can that be considered ethical, either?


> Not all of what is going on here is cheating.

Sure, and they had no problem with the non-cheating discussion going on.

> If my professor was in a group chat, I would assume that what was going on was kosher if nothing was being said.

Okay? I don't see how this conflicts with the article.


An undercover cop, dressed as a skateboarder, watches dozens of others skate for months - unimpeded - in a location where trespassing is a gray area.

What should have happened?

A. The cop tells the skateboarders, "just so you know, you're technically not supposed to be doing this. If you do it again, I'll have to take action."

B. He suddenly arrests the skateboarders for trespassing, much like a sting operation.

The professor needed to say something. Period.


> B. He suddenly arrests the skateboarders for trespassing, much like a sting operation.

I mean, sting operations are a real thing, so...?

In your example it sounds stupid because obviously trespassing to skateboard is such an inconsequential crime. A cop should either should immediately tell people or just not give a shit, because who cares?

Within the context of a university, students cheating their way through every exam is obviously a bigger deal than trespassing for the purpose of exercise.

That said, I agree that just immediately telling people (and then paying closer attention to possible cheating thereafter) is probably the better route, but in the article, they stated they didn't notice the cheating going on until it'd been going on for a while, because they just hadn't paid attention to the chat group.

The professor could've handled things better if they'd been more aware and responsive from the start, but still, the lion's share of the blame rests with the people who chose to cheat.


A large part of any syllabus is a description of the academic integrity policy. Most universities even mention it during orientation. Most all my exams had "by signing, I agree to..." next to where you write your name. Universities care a lot about cheating. It even makes the news.

The cop is always visible, the sign is clearly posted, but they still trespass. Most got less-than-minimum sentences anyway.




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