No wonder people imagine strange things happening when someone decide to disappear in the web.
Secondly, as i understand, there is no problems with translating the book to any language and then sharing it for free with everyone?
I wish Mark all the best. I know what is to loose a good friend. Still what he created was beautiful and those resources are too good to vanish.
And the software is still in PyPi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/feedparser/
I'm super confused. A couple hours ago the two top stories were about mark pilgrim having done what looked like an info suicide. I came back here to check on that and the stories are nowhere to be seen on the first two pages of HN. What happened?
See update on http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-m...
Previous HN threads:
Either way, good riddance. Mark didn't want them there, obviously, and neither did anyone except rubbernecking thrill-chasers.
It was ridiculous to think the guy was in trouble or to send the freaking police to his house. The man has friends, family, and co-workers, and the people who surfaced this story didn't so much care if he was alright (because they weren't his friends) so much as they wanted a few seconds of internet fame for being the first to notice the data wipe.
The story should have been posted as "Lookie, lookie - Mark Pilgrim disappeared from the internet!" That would have been fine.
Instead, it was the morbid internet at its worst.
Or people interested on the subject of mark pirlgrim's work going 401, or the subject of info suicide. There seems to be some kind of censorship goin on, and whether or not there's a legitimate reason for it, HN readers deserve an explanation.
All of these is his own content developed in his own time, and he has every right to pull it down, if he so deems fit, whatever reasons for that. And he has.
Yet, diveintohtml5 lives on. The reason for it is that, it was something he wrote in his employers time who are at least part owners of it.
I hold high respect for Mark and for his wishes to pull down anything his. I am just recognizing the qualitative difference between diveintohtml5 and other projects that he pulled.
So you're saying those stories were removed because Mark Pilgrim wished they were? Is that how things actually work in HN?
I'm not sure I necessarily agree with this, but am just stating how things work here. There is no reason to expect that you aren't being censored; ultimately this site is for advertising YC, not for being an impartial news filter.
> There is no reason to expect that you aren't being censored; ultimately this site is for advertising YC, not for being an impartial news filter.
Yeah, it's important to keep sight of that, and frankly in that case it makes me wonder why I should continue to come back here?
Same here. That's why I'm so interested in what happened backstage with these stories. I've contacted the mail link on the Guidelines section for some light but haven't received a reply yet.
Also, jonathantneal, why is your name showing up green ?
I guess if there isn't enough Internet Drama, we have to make our own? Can we go back to whining about node.js? At least I found that mildly funny...
Mark has produced some exceptional reference works and released them under an open license. They certainly ought not be removed from existence on anyone's personal whim, original author or not, no matter how much we sympathize with his situation, whatever that might be.
I doubt (but obviously don't know) Mark wanted to excise his work from human memory, he just didn't want the personal responsibility of maintaining those resources/participating in their development as a leader. That's the wish worth respecting.
I'm sure Mr. Pilgrim is well aware of this fact.
I agree it is good that someone had the good taste to bury the HN stories.
But DiveInto* is good content, and the internet needs more content like it.
Just because he took down his copy doesn't mean he wanted it to disappear completely. Where did he explicitly state that? Nowhere! You're making a big leap there.