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If you're paying $20 an hour and you can't find a decent Java programmer, I'm not sure if it's a failure of the market. I wouldn't program for $20 an hour no matter where I lived, unless life sucked or I wasn't very good. And if pushed by desperation to take that job, I would be constantly trying to find another one.

The $20 he mentioned is for cablers and phone techs, not for programmers, if I understood correctly.

@idiopathic: You're right, I read it badly. Sorry, crag.

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