I very rarely post comments on youtube, but when I do, I often want to go back to see if I've gotten any replies. Anyone else who's tried doing this has figured out that youtube makes it incredibly difficult for you to find your comment history. It's clearly not something they intend for you to actually use. They don't give you notifications about replies, or even the option to be notified.
Anyway, I think a lot of my comments have either been silently deleted or that maybe they work as if I'm shadowbanned. I've seen this in action trying to post comments on a news video.
It must have something to do with long comments. Whenever I make a long comment, most of the time it just gets deleted after I reload the page. I even checked out the comment history which also shows the comment at first, then you reload and it disappears.
Then after 10 retries, I say fuck it and I just write a small comment instead, go back after 20 seconds and it's still there.
It probably has something to do with long comments. Not sure, but that's where the clues are leading me.
also https://www.youtube.com/feed/history click Comments on the lower right.
But this wont show deleted comments. I had comments disappear, and later video creator tell me he saw it (got notification) before it was automagically deleted by Google, those comments vanished from YT history.
I just gave up and stopped commenting on YT.
I don't know why but it was silently deleted. Maybe because I don't have my real name on YouTube, maybe because it mentioned filenames of the source or whatever or maybe I'm just not paying google enough for them to publish my comments.
We need to replace them now, before it is too late.
My comment that this was dangerous was deleted by the channel owner and apparently I was blocked. So the video suggesting people do a dangerous thing lives on.
Is that a millennial dog-whistle for something unsavory?
I'd guess that if the automatic comment approval system isn't immediate then YouTube shows the comment to the poster so they can validate it was submitted and they haven't made typos but other users don't see it - and when the comment is checked (~20s later) and found bad it gets deleted.
A perfectly normal word...
Even “gay” which is popularized and usable in casual conversation is still considered offensive by some people because of its historical aspect.
For example read up on urban dictionary for some random word -- say omelette:
"Slang word for a sexual orgy."
So that can't be a yardstick -- there has to be some more objective criteria where a word is recognized as truly offensive by a large majority of the population.
Rather than trying for a universal measure, I think it’s best to leave it up to individuals, letting us all use whatever empathy and context we personally have.
I don't want to argue about the specific content, but Google made it very clear they just remove content they don't like.
So they admit they censor content. And because it is their platform you can't do anything about it.
What is particularly frustrating is that tons of garbage posts live on whole a few legitimate or at least not offensive posts get removed.
Are mildly derogatory terms in Burmese (1/10th the speakers of English) treated in this way ? I'd be curious to know how an Anglo-centric enterprise such as YT can establish what semi-archaic derogatory terms there are in Burmese. I suspect the comment would be safe from deletion just as long as English speakers can't read it.
YT does any number of things in multiple languages. Offensive words in Burmese or any other language can easily be implemented with just a word list, which shouldn't be that hard to derive, for example you could scan a dictionary that uses the 'offensive' tag on words like English dictionaries do.
His method is not proving anything because he keeps trying the same thing.
I wanted to copy-paste the comment here but for some reason YouTube makes that difficult on my phone.
how much content is produced but never published online, silenced by robots?
I guess it's understandable given YouTube's scale. Easier to just remove all comments with links than to do more advanced spam detection.
I agree with what a couple of YouTube comments said:
> censorship like this, that simply tricks you into thinking you're alone or being ignored, is a form of psychological torment.
> This is extremely frustrating, I've experienced this countless times. Most of the time I don't even know what causes censoring. It's insane
> They censor the whole platform like that, comments just go straight into the black hole and you never know what words triggered it.
No need for moderation, people still use your garbage, while not being able to influence anyone else or affect your advertising.
when an algorithm censors one form of content over another, then it is indirectly supporting the alternative. which is tuned based on biases, those biases pad the pockets of like minded people within their social sphere, their circle of influence.
but the perception is there that this is what everyone wants, so a percentage of people (competition in many cases) gets censored.
if this was like a small corner bar and someone was advertising their business inside someone else’s bar, then yeah i get it, your house, your rules, but censoring someone on a platform that is larger than many nations put together seems dangerous.
We don't shadowban established accounts—we tell people we're banning them and why
The exceptions are spammers and serial trolls.
Some previous notes:
Using a platform to complain about said platform is due to lack of choices, not hypocrisy.
But you're also right, if people don't complain and try to improve something, the chance of any change is much lower.
I assume (without any evidence) that YT has a programmatic / ML approach to attempt to minimise this sort of crap..
I note that in this case the problem seems to be a particular word, but i don't see this as malice on YTs part.
I no longer post links as references for answers etc even when the channel creator allows them, after having one YT account permabanned for spam based (as far as i can tell.,) on links posted...
(anecdata is notoriously lacking in peer review)
The excuse is always to fight bots and spam, but it's exactly like how the war on terror is actually about war on human freedom - building a prison we all live inside.
No, it is not. Without these algorithms Youtube will be flooded with comments from bots.
> Those algorithms are used to control discussions and censor things as well. This is completely obvious if you pay attention to what is removed.
May be I'm not paying attention but this is not obvious to me. Care to share evidence for your claims?
You never actually see censorship if you are not censored.
If he/she "doesn't see it because he's not beingu censored", as you seem to imply that perhaps you are, his question would then be very relevant:
You could enlighten them with evidence so that they can also see what is obvious to you.