My guess, folks have been NOT working the 12+ hour days, have NOT been doing the "rolling lunches" and other wild hollywood stuff (that a construction worker would think was crazy) during COVID. Might have opened their eyes to life outside of the hollywood dream machine.
Maybe look for things as basic as:
Mandated stop production 30 minute lunches.
Mandated 10 hour turnarounds seem totally reasonable
And bottom line, new media isn't new media anymore, it's big business so sorting that out also makes sense
I've never fully understood why hollywood can't always take a standard 30 minute lunch break. The job site across the street, lunch time, everyone puts down their stuff and eats and relaxes. And end of day, they are gone (unless it's a rush and paying overtime).
(note this is my list - union's position may be different etc).
They finally offered 10hr turn around after we voted to strike; and its with strings. They cant even give an hour for sleep. Ive done the 14-17hr days, with 9hr turn around, and I live 1hr 20min from set, so thats 6hrs personal time a day to eat and sleep.
As for lunch, many shows do have a 30 min lunch, but the flow works out that not everyone gets an equal lunch, some have responsibilities that require them back on set before the others. Production will not wait on one person to eat. Also 30 minutes in a 16 hour day isnt much anyway
Seeing the money being thrown at SVOD by apple/netflix et al, where does it even go if not into below the line pockets? The production budgets for some of these things rival movies of the past.
Extra money goes right to the companies. Actors dont get the same residuals from streaming either, just look at Scarlett Johansson's lawsuit.
Streaming contract language is based on number of subscribers, so before Disney+ launched, they made a bunch of movies under the zero-to-tiny subscribers model, essentially a low budget contract, to avoid paying normal rates, but these were full fledged films and shows.
I think it's not just the studios' greed that causes the normal Hollywood workers to get fucked, it's also A-list actors' greed.
The divide between screen and streaming is being abused by the studios, who make far more than the paltry sum for her face across the world and loss of privacy.
>I doubt very much they’d have done the same to Chris Evan’s or Robert Downey Jr.
Is this supposed to be about gender? Or what is this supposed to mean? Evans got less for the latest cape movie than Johansson got for Black Widow by the way ($15M vs $20M). She was in that same movie (Avengers: Endgame) and made the same as Evans.
Disney is an evil corporation, they will try to fuck with everybody if they think they can get away with it. I am sure if Avengers: Endgame was released now and in the way Black Widow was, they'd have tried to scam Evans and Downey Jr (and Johansson too) the same way they tried to scam Johansson now. Hollywood invented Hollywood accounting to scam people (and the state) long ago. One example of who got scammed this way is Stan Lee, who sued and got awarded $10M for Spider-Man from Marvel.
There sure is a lot of sexism in Hollywood, but this isn't it, as far as I can tell.
But second, also no, because streaming services are the bulk of the problem.
Production schedules are more volatile than they used to be, and streaming services don't have to pay as well as normal productions, owing to an outdated contract.
The work is far different than anything in the real world and can be rewarding, even just to witness - I've helped burn buildings down, flood a bedroom, built canoes, treehouses and a guillotine, rig cameras on cars, and built scenery from 1600s onward, to name a few. Many see their contributions directly affect, and often visually, the end product, it can be pretty neat!
If you have ever worked on a film set (I can't comment on all of the environments IATSE members work in), it can be complete and total chaos with very small moments of coordination. I don't want to excuse the madness of why talent, technical and directorial can't all coordinate to improve the overall efficiency of the set. This is why people don't just put down their equipment at noon and grab lunch. Everyone is standing around super-busy doing nothing until that one magical moment where everything aligns and you better gosh darn be ready right then and there or you will find yourself replaced. Like it said, it could be brutal!
(I don't think abusing workers that way is justified just to save a buck and I hope the union members achieve their goals.)
My first gig out of college-- the company said they didn't pay vacations or holidays for the first 6 months. I had no idea this was illegal in California, but one of the other hires did and got them in some major amount of trouble for it. They also asked me to sign a non-compete, I knew that was illegal and told them "I'll sign if you want, but these are illegal in California so its unenforceable." And they also forbade me from talking about my compensation, which is illegal. I later found out some people were making half what I was, and some people were making significantly more than I was. During the negotiations they told me they absolutely couldn't go over number X, when in fact that was not true. Of course they didn't want people comparing salaries.
Employment is the wild west. A law just means you have some recourse when they do a thing, not that they won't do it.
One big change that needs to happen, especially in the labor “friendly” states of CA/WA/NY/MA is modifying the all party consent recording laws to one party consent. Employers (and people in power) should be afraid their audio is being recorded so they cannot claim he said she said when they try to get away with something illegal verbally.
Edit: my list of states should be CA/WA/CT/MA. NY is already one party consent.
I've been in situations where proof of what happened was badly needed.
Walmart probably got too many lawsuits or something.
This is why they're so strict now, at least in CA.
Then they got walloped with a lawsuit about it. I actually used the situation to my advantage. Once I realized what was going on-- I snuck out the loading dock which was never closed and took leisurely lunches. It was assumed you couldn't get out, so you hadn't. I can't have been the only Walmart rogue who realized this, but I never saw anyone else do it.
And it wasn't just janitors. I was a stock boy. Most big box stores even if they aren't open, restock at night.
This is in part because with a CBA (union agreement) the union can bargain away rights you might otherwise have under law.
This can also be because wage orders (ie #12) modify rules or provide for exceptions.
And then even if on a union set, some things will be ignored (despite all the safety talk from the unions some trades find some of the safety practices a bit overboard or impractical -> looking at you fall prevention standards etc) especially for old timers who started before some of the safety rules came in (juicers / grips etc).
So union lunch break rules etc control - but can be ignored, and enforcement would be through a grievance usually vs a court case in some cases etc.
Last I looked (when working a 24/7 single person operations desk in California), you could just pay extra hours instead of having a 'mandated' break. For that role, having a legal break wasn't really feasible for most of the shifts. How are you going to get someone to cover for 30 minutes only at 4 am in the middle of the graveyard shift?
Anyway, that wasn't too bad, I did 4 pm to midnight and noon to midnight shifts, and it was OK to wander out for a few minutes to pick up takeout and eat at the desk. Lots of waiting around looking at the screen that stayed green most of the time. (Restart daemons when things turned red) Generally incidents only happened while developers were in the office, and there was one time the datacenter called to report a power outage, but it turned out it was just the breaker on the lighting circuit.
tell me you have never in your working life gone anywhere near the entertainment industry without telling me you have never in your working life gone anywhere near the entertainment industry.
Why would a construction worker think 12+ hour days are crazy?
My experience is that this is normal for roading workers in the road-making season.
One-hour lunches, though: now that's just crazy talk.
On the other hand, many of the people from the live entertainment industry found refuge in film and television. There has been a hollowing out of the industry where the senior folks have stuck around, but lots and lots of people who were early in their career have left and are not coming back. The senior folks can afford a few more weeks of no pay. However, if they cut off revenue to the film&tv world, they are setting up a 1-2 punch to the entertainment companies (1. COVID, 2. strike), and that puts them in a good negotiating position.
At the time, the only thing I noticed was one of my favorite actresses from House MD participated in the strike and that the quality of the writing declined shortly after it started.
That said, I completely support the strike! The workers need it badly and the stronger the strikes, the more control the workers will have. The more control they have, the less of a disaster America will be and leave less room for those kinds of consequences! My only criticism of the earlier strike is that it wasn't strong enough to include Reality TV in its coalition.
EDIT: Welp, I was wrong! Sorry about that.
EDIT2: Some people seem to think the show took off after the strike even though it started before:
That was one of my favorite alt-history theories. Sad.
Not all of us.
And I know for sure there is at least one trucker on here, I seent it, not sure where that is on the income spectrum, dang-sure not SV money though (is it?).
It's easier to bargain, to play "chicken" when you know you have your membership behind you.
It's not easy to threaten a strike when you have a 60% vote, for example.
A union's power is in solidarity.
- What the workers' demands are?
- What they want consumers to do to support the strike?
Finding it hard to navigate their website, and hearing people on social media say conflicting things, hard to get a read on what the official position of the union is.
1) Reasonable rest periods
2) Meal breaks
3) Living wages for workers at the bottom of the wage scale
4) Some other issues that are not publicized during the negotiation process
I find the confidentiality around these negotiations interesting. Does anyone have insight into what issues are not being publicized (and why)?
I can say, the core of it is demanding safe work hours, the rest is important but workable. The producers are trying to reduce pay, increase health care costs, skip lunch, and while asking us to work harder, and still pretending streaming media isn't viable. IATSE has been good over the years making okay, but arguably fair contracts, but producers consistently take advantage of the situation and contract language
Edit, since HN is throttling my response to the bigman433 below: I absolutely agree with you. Much like music industry, to paraphrase Hunter S Thompson, movie industry is "a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs." It's just that now is not the best time to effect change there. Think of it from the standpoint of the owner: you have a venture which is barely making any money at the moment and is not projected to make a lot of it at any point in the next few years. And that venture is starting to cause you legal, PR, and labor problems on top of that. You'd get rid of it at the drop of a hat. Now, if you actually were making money hand over fist, and the flow of money suddenly stopped, that's a MUCH better leverage to make a deal. This presupposes, however, that they'd actually like to solve their problems, rather than just stay angry, which is how it often is. Problem solving is less profitable to the agitators than constant, simmering anger.
One of the reasons this is all happening is because workers have continually been abused around streaming content. Studios are making more and more money while workers get shafted with ever worsening hours and pay. Studios are abusing definitions of work surrounding streaming shows/movies to drastically abuse hour and pay laws.
We do it well, fast, and safe.
Eg the people putting money into these productions could take their money to China instead, no?
The strike does seem reasonable to me though.
Shows used to go to Canada until our tax breaks got better. Some things will always shoot here. Many projects are also tied to the whim or contract of the a big name star.
Once they get digital movies down pat, they'll likely eliminate all our jobs as fast as possible. Which is why we are slowly unionizing VFX workers!
Vancouver, Toronto and Calgary get quite a few more acting gigs playing various American cities in American productions than Edmonton does.
Lots of films set in Seattle are or were filmed in Vancouver, and you might not know it unless you live around Seattle.
A good example was "Frasier". I don't think it even had establishing shots, so all we saw was interiors . Even those of us who lived in Seattle when it was on couldn't tell it was filmed in Vancouver.
 Except for one episode where they did have significant outdoor action set at various well known Seattle locations, which they did come to Seattle to shoot.