After the Romans captured Carthage they murdered 450,000 of its inhabitants.
This makes Caesar's Place in Las Vegas very culturally problematic.
Are you trying to be sarcastic? Satire is dead because no one can tell any more. The internet is so vast that at least a few people have your absurd opinion, possibly including you.
And the Spanish Inquisition, Bluebeard, Ivan The Terrible, Robespierre, Lenin, Beelzebub and Donald J. Trump?
The ban list is way too short.
Apocalypto focussed on the Maya, who aren't even from the same continent as the Inca.
There probably aren't that many Vlad the Impaler apologists in the world, given that he's a functionally irrelevant person to be an apologist for. That's perhaps less the case for Stalin, but even Marxist-Leninists (seem) to make fewer excuses for Stalin-the-human than neo-Nazis do for Hitler-the-human.
Literally the entire genre of Vampire literature disagrees.
I wasn't under the impression that there was any particular political message behind contemporary vampire fiction. Dracula itself is full of political messages, but probably not the ones you're thinking of.
Presumably these folks aren't using facebook so I can only assume that, uh, younger nazis have adopted these names as noms de guerre?
Although with how much the MAGA-crowd evokes the name of Hitler/Nazis to compare the current administration with it, maybe not...
I have not seen this widely used, and when it is often it is in the context of "And they called us Nazi's" or something to that effect.
The number of "MAGA-Types" comparing Biden to WWII Germany is a faction of the number of people that used the same comparison for Trump.
Neither are accurate, but Godwin demands that everything we dislike is just like fascism
//for the record, because I have not. I am neither Republican or Democrat I support the largest 3rd party in the US, they who can not be named....
Okay, but I want you to acknowledge just how much Blue Team did this exact same thing during the last administration.
More Edit: Turns out I picked a bad example. I missed reference to a name collision with an actual National Socialist band using the original name. The original edit is below.
Edit: Figured I should support my thesis with an example.
Let us take the band Sturmtruppen, from the Hate section of the linked article. From Encyclopaedia Metallum, they are a Black/Death metal band with themes of war and genocide. Per and interview referenced on their Encyclopedia Metallum page, their choice of those themes is not to glorify them, but to have something evil sounding enough to fit the style of music.
I am not saying that all the listed bands don't belong there. I know that actual neo nazi bands that take their imagery and themes seriously are a real thing that exist. But I do suspect at least some bands are on that list because of imagery and lyrical themes alone.
There are multiple bands with the name “Sturmtruppen”. One is from Switzerland, formed in 1988. That is the one in the list. You have confused it with the German band from 1996, which changed its name to avoid confusion with the other band.
It has a Wikipedia page:
> In Deutschland wurde es wegen seiner überwiegend ausländerfeindlichen Texte von der Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien indiziert.
> Mehrere Mitglieder der Band waren in der Nationalistischen Jugend Schweiz organisiert.
Overall, the list appears reasonable to me and no (to me known) member is particularly surprising.
The very fact that this issue presents itself to you as anything other than a damning report on the state of the union is itself telling.
Perhaps instead, think of it this way: *even Facebook*, whose Zuck repeatedly dined with the architect of Jan 6, clocks this country as having a white-nationalists-with-guns problem.
EDIT: and at least the few names I recognize on that list also fall under that label.
Edit: moving my other comment into this one, as others have mentioned, the band you linked changed their name because another band with the same name was a Nazi metal band. Perhaps that's why only the name shared with a Nazi band is on the list. (that other band presumably being https://www.discogs.com/artist/1917747-Sturmtruppen)
The given reasons are exactly the same: violence, hate, religious extremism. Facebook is the new Soviet State of Workers and Peasants.
The reason for avoiding both of those is to avoid passing through watermarking that can reveal how the data was leaked.
Text can be watermarked by including unicode characters that look identical to ASCII characters or including invisible characters like zero-width spaces. Copy-pasting text will keep those characters.
Images from screenshots can be watermarked by having subtly differently colored pixels, subtle differences in text spacing, etc.
Half of the Organizations in the "Hate: category seem to be based in Germany.
Almost all of the Organizations in the "Terror" category seem to be Islamic.
In the category "Crime" Brazil is overly represented.
There seem to be a shocking amount of "Armed Militia Groups".
I was surprised to find that "A.K. Chesterton" is affiliated with the "British Union of Fascists" ?? Is that correct?
I seemed to be confusing "G.K. Chesterton" with "A.K. Chesterton" pfffffiew...
I am honestly surprised that style of enforcement isn't more common internationally.
(edit: got a detail wrong: the team does not need to physically be in germany, but facebooks is)
What social network will risk such a fine to keep a single post?
> I am honestly surprised that style of enforcement isn't more common internationally.
Probably because the NetzDG considered incompatible with both the German constitution and the European Convention of Human Rights (but the European Commission illegally does not allow access to their legal assessment regarding that law), and is opposed by many human rights groups, including Reporters Without Borders and the UN Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Opinion and Expression.
oh i am not at all in favor of that law!
I am just wondering that this style of pressuring FB to have a team of censors trained in regional language and law (else 5M fine!) isn't more common. I kind of expect Hungary, Turkey, Russia and the Saudis among many others to demand that as well and file long lists of censorship topics, but they are underrepresented on the list we see here. At least Russia and Turkey are currently fining Facebook for non-compliance.
Not private militias! In-fact, they are banned by all 50 states: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/30/907720068/are-citizen-militia...
Would you rather they put Navalny on the terror list? He was recently classified as a "terrorist" by the Russian prison authority. The list pretty much reflects US views, so I'm not that surprised.
There are probably some very indicting statistics on some sites that have an international audience but 80% of complaints still come from Germans.
"...But one thing is consistent - all 50 states have some provision in their state law, whether it's their state constitution or their state statutes, that prohibits private militia, private paramilitary activity. And that's also the case in Wisconsin. In addition, many states, including Wisconsin, prohibit private individuals, untrained, unaccountable to civilian authority from taking on official functions - functions of an official public officer like a police officer without any authority."
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Members of the militia are "all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and,... under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.""
>Revealed: Facebook’s Secret Blacklist of “Dangerous Individuals and Organizations”
>Experts say the public deserves to see the list, a clear embodiment of U.S. foreign policy priorities that could disproportionately censor marginalized groups.
UPD Twitter thread by author:
"Who did you think wanted half a jar of olives?!?"
Don't rely so heavily on "fact checks" - their sole raison d'etre is to provide ammo to the "official" narrative peddlers nowadays. Read the original letter.
> Same FBI that's about to start arresting "terrorist" parents for having the temerity to speak at school board meetings? That FBI?
As for the new links: they're both opinion pieces, both of which are (vague) handwringing that don't support the more outrageous claim being made (that the FBI is about to "start arresting [...] parents").
The closest thing I can find to actual reporting on this says that Garland (who's DoJ, not FBI) wrote an advisory memo. The memo itself is a broad announcement to multiple federal agencies notifying them to coordinate with local agencies in cases of harassment against educators. Not exactly shocking stuff.
Edit: All of the recent FBI stories I can find are about a manhunt for a (presumed) murderer or about the nuclear espionage case.
Edit 2: This is the only reference I was able to find. It sounds like the current governor of Florida falsely claimed that the FBI is "going after" parents. It's not clear what "going after" means, or where that came from.
Tip: there's a toggle on the page where you can get the raw text of the document, then use ctrl+f.
not serious, idk people just stay up at night plotting evil shit for whatever reason with their buddies. might be better laying off the terror and chilling out a little, watch some netflix. maybe something more positive than terror, idk, they spend too much time on twitter. surprised facebook posted this.
"Houthis", one of the groups in the "Terror" list, is actually the name of an ethnicity in northern Yemen (which is currently in insurrection against the Saudi-backed government of Yemen). "Ammar", another, is also the name of the prostitutes' union here in Argentina, AMMAR, which is not to my knowledge a violent group (despite having had one of their leaders assassinated). "Taliban" literally means "seminary students". I'm guessing there are a lot of "Tamil Foundations for X" in India, given that there are almost 80 million Tamils in India, Sri Lanka, and Malaysia. 5 million people live in Michoacán, and any of their families would be a "familia michoacana" in Spanish. "Sureños" are people from the South, which could mean South America or the Southern United States. "Asatru" is commonly used as the term for attempted revivals of pre-Christian Scandinavian religion (you know, the one with Thor and Freya and Odin); some factions are super racist (this is why Nazi SS uniforms used the "S" rune) while others reject racism. It's easy to imagine French speakers seeking "egalité et réconciliation" without endorsing the hate group. And of course there are a number of people out there named "Ben Jones", "Arthur Jones", "Charlie Fox", "Ian Stuart", "James Mason", "Jared Taylor", "Mario Machado", "Richard Spencer", "Robert Ray", "Alejandro Estrada", "Mario Jackson", "Omar Romero", "Abdul Aziz", "Abdul Jabbar", "Hafiz Saeed", "Mohammad Hejazi", "Mohammed Omar", and "Omar Hussain", and any of the numerous Hassans from Baghdad could reasonably be called "Hassan al-Baghdadi".
In many cases the names on the list are of people who died many generations ago, so the evident intent is not even to prevent them from setting up Facebook accounts, but to prevent others from discussing them on Facebook; that is, to suppress comments like this one.
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However, aside from questions of false positives, the broader issue is that nominally the issue over which the Cold War was fought was over whether to have such a list of prohibited groups and dangerous individuals whose voice was too dangerous to allow people to hear it, or subjects too dangerous to allow people to discuss them; the USSR argued that it was essential, the US that it was intolerable, in both cases somewhat inconsistently. This theory of liberalism was fundamental to the foundation of the US — not, as some would argue, as a mere limitation on government action, but as a fundamental aspect of what distinguishes a good society from a bad one.
So it's disquieting to see liberalism so thoroughly rejected by modern centralized communications media.
The issue over which the cold war was fought was one of world dominance, and to be honest the way you describe the values that the US defended seems laughable considering you're referring the era of Hoover's FBI.
Edit: Is it okay when we do it?
Can you link any additional information on the John Brown Gun Club "bombing and shooting people all last summer"?
Hopefully not as deep as those mountain fortresses that Bin Laden was hiding in!
In my limited experience, the grouped-up folks tend to take more measured actions, the lone wolves are more likely to cause trouble.
There's around 1k names in the list but over 400k homicides worldwide every year. I assume there's lots more hate and misc. crimes every year, so what's the usefulness of having only 1k users flagged?