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given how stalled the JCP seems to be (the disappointment with 7 and the general sentiment against oracle) i can't see TCO ever being fixed and i wonder how much tolerance there will be for third party expansion (without lawsuits or licencing). i agree that invokedynamic is going to help, but even there you can argue that it took a long time in coming (when did davinci appear? 2008? three long years....)

but i agree it's not a "deep" analysis. did you miss the part where i said i had only used the language for a day? or the word "initial" in the title?

[edit:] actually, there is one more thing i want to say. one thing that has discouraged me from looking at clojure earlier is the agressiveness i've seen from the language's fanboys. fwiw.

It's worth noting that Clojure runs on the .NET/Mono CLR as well.

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