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> Currently, you would probably rank Google's offerings behind every other big-tech competitor.

Um, no, I don't. They are in fact in the lead in most areas, particularly video calls which in my experience are the best in terms of stability and quality. Discord being a close second-video and audio quality is at the same level but the file-sharing experience is incredibly miserable(even worse than the google drive integration). I think google's biggest problem is the "they are spying on me" rhetoric. All while the biggest player in the game-zoom has been proven to be a lot more guilty in that regard.




> I think google's biggest problem is the "they are spying on me" rhetoric.

For me personally, the hesitation has nothing to do with such rhetoric. I simply don't want to invest into another Google's chat experience, only for it to be eventually killed off again.

I gave it my honest try with Hangouts, the experience started getting better and better, my friends slowly started switching to and settling on Hangouts. And then it was suddenly killed off in favor of Allo+Duo (only for Allo to be killed off shortly after). After my personal experience with Hangouts and watching the Allo situation closely, the only thing that will make me come back is Google stopping the trend of randomly killing off anything that isn't Gmail, search, and Youtube.


Yeah I'm done. I was still on Hangouts with one family member, but not moving to Chat or any future Google app. I'm mostly on Signal now.


> particularly video calls which in my experience are the best in terms of stability and quality.

I guess you use Chrome? Or have Google fixed it?


I jump between chromium and brave, works great on both.


Exactly, for now it works on Chrome and Chrome based browsers.

But a web product isn't good quality when it deliberately doesn't work well on Firefox.

(Yep, I refuse to believe that Google "forgot" to test on Firefox and they aren't so incompetent that they can't make it work if they want :-/)




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