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> For example, I genuinely don't know if software developers have more of an impact than the product designers

Explains why this mentality exists. Middle management cannot see the impact.




Truly, sometimes I wonder if ICs should be allowed to fire managers if managers can't see what brings value.


Software engineers are allowed to fire managers. It's called quitting and becoming a consultant. It often leads to a large pay bump, but also comes along with assuming all the bullshit that your manager does for you, so it's not for everyone.


No. Firing is not the same as becoming a consultant. ICs should be able to fire managers, along with their health benefits. Let managers take recourse as consultants.




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