as someone who's unsuccessfully been trying to coax something similar out of a designer, it's refreshing to see. my product requires a bit of convincing and explaining, so the standard business type website with a couple pictures thrown in isn't as effective. long copy is hard to get right and this guy nailed it.
Maybe he has potential as a copywriter, but if he's going to use it, he needs to keep his eye on the objective for which he's writing.
First, if you are not contributing something positive to the conversation, most people will downvote you. This is why the comment where you are asking why you got downvoted is now downvoted.
Next, it is generally considered acceptable to upvote comments you agree with and downvote comments than you disagree with. I think this is why the comment you are asking about was downvoted initially.
Note, there is some controversy about downvoting because you disagree. Personally, I feel like this makes hacker news a more uniform and less interesting place than it would be otherwise, but I believe I am outvoted in this matter. On the other hand, upvoting or downvoting is clearly better than content-free 'me too' posts.
* Not because of the downvotes but just thought better of it -- like I think I am blathering on too much here about me in a way that could lead to trouble.
Still, I thought generally "adding value" isn't contingent on agreement. Do people generally downvote things they disagree with? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, haven't been here for long.)
I like how he presented himself and the website coding. There are two points, though:
1. Don't use images for Text. He can use cuffon or font-face
2. I need to click the thumb. Since the page doesn't showcase any particular design and coding skills then I need to check the websites he made.
I agree you should prefer text to images of text, but sometimes you can't escape it. EDIT: And I agree that in this particular case, he could've just used appropriately-styled text. :)
Safari 5.03, IE 6-9, Firefox 3.6-4, Chrome 8, iOS 3.2-4.2, Android 2.2-2.3, Opera 11
It does require different file formats, but these can be generated trivially:
Typekit, however, has really extensive browser support (http://help.typekit.com/customer/portal/articles/6786-browse...) and, of course, appropriate licensing built in.
There's too many great solutions for web typography to have images be an acceptable solution these days.
The markup isn't great at all, and the overall usability and typography choices suck. Get over yourself, millennial.
What if the customer didn't want that tricked out design you made? Are they going to get made fun of for having a simple website that people can understand and use with ease? Probably not.
The designer and customer need to work TOGETHER to get something great. The designer doesn't know the ins and outs and the passion behind the business, the customer does.
Work together and get something that looks pimp but is still in line with what the customer wants.
In all seriousness though, I appreciate his attempt to be avant-garde. If it backfires, we know why. If it gets him a few jobs, we know why.
So he’s not one of the most brilliant; he’s just good. You can also be humble and rubbish.
Down with corporations! and stuff...
Taste is subjective, but this is my area of expertise and I'd say he's middle of the road, so his attitude comes across as plain old arrogance to me.
I also think that web designers should be able to code, but that's a whole other debate.
And here it is on themeforest.net: http://themeforest.net/item/business-solutions/152308
(Wonders if this feat can be replicated for the woman with the orange background and no text...nah, probably not.)
This search result is only good for 72 hours but http://www.tineye.com/search/8177b52b0e52f8b05e164b65ed2428f... Some of the links from the search page are NSFW. If that's dead just paste the URL of the image you want to search for (http://www.alittlebitofsomething.co.uk/images/folio_rlc.gif) into http://www.tineye.com/ .
He might be more run-of-the-mill than brilliant. But then, he probably knows a lot more than his client, and he's trying to drive that point in.
If you can, it makes it all worth while. If not, you come off in the wrong way.
If he buys templates and customizes them and his clients are happy, who are we to mock him? Does it make us feel superior?
Considering everyone has to start from square one at some point, I hardly blame alternative tactics to "Look at these sites I designed, aren't they awesome?". Not everyone can have designed... whatever sites you think are good.
But the rest is kind of "meh". Like I've never heard a talented, intelligent professional whine before about this type thing. My advice: Put some of that intelligence towards learning how to better market yourself or some such so you make better money and have less to kvetch about.
I have more experience and a broader portfolio, but do you think anyone would have reason to submit my site to HN? Nup.
If the large percentage rubbed the wrong way by this were likely to rain his house with stones, he'd have a problem, but they won't. They'll move on to the next topic and forget him pretty quickly.
On top of that, he will get a more receptive crowd as this moves around Twitter and the like too.
I'd guess that big business or even medium enterprises won't touch him, but anyone needing a freelancer or with a start-up might. Those two groups would be reasonably well represented here.
Not even sure why we're talking about this.
Maybe it's because I use windows large fonts but a pro would have considered that. Actually it seems he uses 1000px image width so right there is a lack of understanding that 40px makes a big difference in adapting design to what the market will accept.
Ah, I remember this!
very similar, but an ebay listing not a portfolio website. he certainly knows how to copywrite in a way that gets him traffic.
To me, that simple detail alone belies the second statement of his copy.
There was something about the copy of this guy that was both repulsive and engaging all in the same serving ... like a train wreck you can take your eyes off.