They thankfully didn't find me in real life, but I pulled down all social media to avoid them.
Edit: I want to say one more thing. Sometimes people defend 4chan and say stuff like "that's just how they are", "they don't really mean it", or "you have to understand their community". But places like 4chan do real, measurable harm to people.
Just recently, Near/Byuu (SNES emulation) took their life after relentless doxxing and harassment. It wasn't 4chan, but these communities all harbor the same type of anonymity-enabled "for the lulz" harassment that brings out the worst in people.
In 2000s there used to be external wikis for ops done in a local BBS in my country, and those used to summarize timelines and key informations that led to development. They were probably doing for their own fun but were also useful for defending side.
There has been a long slew of young girls (and some boys) who have been tricked into sending explicit photos and have had their lives ruined over it in connection with 4chan and sites like it.
Like “04/01 15:00 target posts a picture[link, deleted] location[link] verified from vegetation, angle of sun and buildings in background. 19:34 A member discovers that face in reflection matches photo[link] taken by target’s acquaintance A”.
From logs like that, defensive sides can learn that you shouldn’t upload a picture with features that can be correlated from satellite imagery, that you generally should not upload your friend’s face, that you should also check reflections before uploading, that it’ll take few hours to analyze a photo, etc. (btw these are why I don’t do Fb/Ig or TikTok — it goes against every fucking best practices I had accumulated)
Or maybe this could be a new business idea…
I've been trying to follow this story as closely as I could manage, but even I don't understand what the fuck is going on anymore.
They're (IMHO) unwatchable when you follow the money trail and realise what they are, and always were: thinly veiled shills.
So, only the Dorico video is even possible to be a shill. Also, oh my goodness if he made YouTube videos to raise his personal profile, as opposed to all the other YouTubers who make videos anonymously?!?
But to address the wider point, the same complaint could be made about anything anyone ever wrote anything for money. Since some works written for money have lasting merit, the mere fact that something was written for money should not count against it.
Besides, on this forum you'll have plenty of people arguing that abuse is just speech and it's wrong to ban people from organizing harassment on the internet. I don't agree, but that's the wellspring of this culture.
Honestly, I'd support politicians' right to have a bit of privacy and space in their own home.
There is a time and a place to stage a protest and after hours at someone's family home is not it.
Interestingly, this happened on a much larger scale yesterday too,
Same rules? Lock them up?
Obviously I’m not condoning this, but does actually seem relevant to this discussion.
One could argue that the FBI could be behind this too, for reasons we won't find out for another couple of decades.
After all, what serious developer would continue working on this knowing this project is going to endanger their life?
"Congratulations, you played yourself"
I sympathize with his case but this post seems a delusional, hyperbolic rant that will make his harassers target him with renewed fervor.
They are trying to get on his nerves, he should go to the police and stop seething on the internet cause he's giving them plenty of what they really want.
If you want examples other than 4chan, look around. The state of several first-world countries (you probably live in one of them) is the result of threat ignorance.
It's the FBI's jurisdiction, and they're not going to do anything, either. To them, it's just another of the billions of death threats sent every day. Don't call them about it until you're already dead.
It would be great if somebody, occasionally, decided to follow up on one of these felonies. Maybe people would think twice about it. But as it is, going to police is exactly as effective as complaining about it on the Internet: not at all.
Or get enough capital to hire the armed security who guard your house 24 hours a day.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the people who bullied this individual had the goal of getting the original independent fork abandoned while also getting the new fork cancelled on the grounds of hate speech all along.
I visit 4chan and the site is full of propaganda from government and entities with enough capital to pay astroturfers or build bots. At this point it is safe to assume that “anon” is not always some edgy hacker kids but a government, bank, large company, etc.
Then that hacker pseudonym was reused by other corporate actors to cause PR nightmares for each other.
Or were you thinking of something else with a similar plot?
I'm sure some shady interference from external actors does sometimes happen on the site, but in a scenario like this, I would bet a lot of money 99 - 100% of the people involved are just /g/ trolls who think it's funny to harass the guy. This "it wasn't us!" reasoning reminds me a lot of the Gamergate people who insisted anyone harassing people was actually a false flag by someone trying to make their side look bad.
Looking further into the sequence of events, it might as well have been just 4chan being 4chan, but like someone else said, it seems that they played themselves here. There are posters on /g/ who legitimate wanted this tool to remain usable without tracking analytics.
Indeed. It's perplexing why they targeted this person for doing a public service. (Not that they should harass the original project or anything, of course. But it especially makes no sense that they don't like the person who's actually on their side in the matter.)
For example, every time I tried to make threads around this YouTube video exposing the lobbying practices of Exxon Mobile against climate change fighting measures, my thread would get derailed into racist stuff that had nothing to do with the video and would get the thread eventually locked.
Let's use Occam's razor here.
But calling out Exxon on 4chan? That’s brave.
But, to be fair, CEOs know PR professionals that know what 4chan is.
Edit: Upon closer inspection, it seems cookiengineer had a vote for fork name. And Sneedacity won. After deleting that option 4chan went on a frenzy.
Maybe the person just did so out of a random thought of finding it funny, or maybe because of personal dislikes or maybe because of other reason.
Let's not forget people which go to extrems "for the lulz" tend also be easy to be used if you are lucky (i.e. just need to pitch the right idea to the right person in a "innocent" way, through it also comes at a considerable risk for you because you can never be sure who they end up harassing in the end).
I honestly try to not visit the place, except when I want to pick up unknown crypto tokens that will get pumped. Like I said, the site is full of propaganda and sometimes it messes up with your perception of reality.
4chan then did what 4chan do.
But I'm not sure its really any worse than mainstream social media. Witch hunts start on all of the large platforms. WhatsApp and Facebook are responsible for countless literal witch hunts where the accused were killed or brutally beaten. 4chan seems tame in comparison.
What happened, beyond the fact that Audacity's maintainers decided to include some telemetry and made some changes to the PA, was that the community around Audacity reacted with anger, and some people called for a fork to be made.
A developer took the call and forked the project. They assembled a team and unfortunately, now is when the actual shit storm begins, they came up with the idea of asking the community on Github to vote for a new name for the fork... Word of this got to 4chan's /g/ (technology) board and they decided to participate with the name 'Sneedacity' (which refers to a meme you can find by searching 'Sneed feed and seed').
They eventually won the vote but the maintainer, realizing this was obviously a piss-take by 4chan decided it was reasonable not to rename the fork. This should've been the end of it, but because this is the internet what on most cases would've been the correct cause of action became a direct inflammatory action against the /g/ board.
From here on there was numerous threads created on 4chan that more or less meme'd around with Audacity's fork new maintainer. At the moment, there's about 10 threads each one with around 300-odd replies (due to bump limitation). Most of them are quite satirical and at the most perverse and abusive but there is a distinct lack of 'calls for action' which further exacerbated people on 4chan, since there are several claims of this kind made on Github.
Personally I did went through every thread and there is an open debate over the fact that at least part of the new Audacity (fork) team seemed to have been posting self-doxing statements... Because posts on 4chan are anonymous it is virtually impossible to confirm this...
Either way, I'm sure this has been quite an unpleasant experience to the developer that forked Audacity. Its a classic prank going out of control because some people are just likely to push things to the limit, specially if they can do so in total impunity.
 https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/33 (now deleted)
4Chan is the devil you think you know but don't really.
I just shrug and keep doing what I'm doing.
Their hell is their lives. I don't need to get involved.
I'd say this qualifies as a threat to life, and shrugging is unlikely to work in this situation.
(In the US the voter file of the name and address of everyone who registered to vote is public information. It's mostly not free online but you can usually buy a copy of it from the state, with minimal protection against that data being abused)
It's also absurd to ask a regular person living in a country like Germany to be ready at all times to defend themselves using knives or guns.
Please don't create accounts to do that with.
...Okay. I could be totally wrong here, but I was fairly certain the Sneed thing came out of a Simpson's joke w.r.t. Sneed's Seed and Feed, formerly Chuck's.
This would quite frankly be the first time I've heard the Sneed->"special needs"->retards connection, which to be frank, is nowhere near direct enough for what I know of memes with a Channic origin.
Not that I'm an expert on the subject matter.
Correct. Sneed is 100% from "Sneed's Seed and Feed / Formerly Chuck's".
Yielding to 4chan trolls could be prudent. It isn't democracy.
I’ve been thinking of tweeting my home address, so this is a relevant concern. What do you even do when someone comes to your house, other than listen to them?
It could also be true that they did something a lot less friendly, like “bang on the windows and run away laughing.” That would be unsettling to experience, particularly at night.
This is a sad situation. Their Internet notoriety is the source of the problem, one way or another, and they felt like they couldn’t continue. I respect that; family is #1.
In 1809 this  happened in London:
> On 27 November, at five o'clock in the morning, a sweep arrived to sweep the chimneys of Mrs Tottenham's house. The maid who answered the door informed him that no sweep had been requested, and that his services were not required. A few moments later another sweep presented himself, then another, and another; twelve in all. After the last of the sweeps had been sent away, a fleet of carts carrying large deliveries of coal began to arrive, followed by a series of cakemakers delivering large wedding cakes, then doctors, lawyers, vicars and priests summoned to minister to someone in the house they had been told was dying. Fishmongers, shoemakers and over a dozen pianos were among the next to appear, along with "six stout men bearing an organ". Dignitaries, including the Governor of the Bank of England, the Duke of York, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Lord Mayor of London, also arrived. The narrow streets soon became severely congested with tradesmen and onlookers. Deliveries and visits continued until the early evening, bringing a large part of London to a standstill.
The person behind that wrote thousands of letters to set that up.
Actually, this is a good example. There have been ~two high profile swatting incidents resulting in death. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting#Injuries_or_deaths_du...
Dying in a car crash is a lot higher probability for most of us, but the question is whether publishing one's address would raise the probability significantly.
I'm not sure it would. And it's hard to think of what else people can do, other than, as you say, subscribe you to a bunch of fetish mailing lists that I'd probably get a kick out of anyway.
I mean, they cut the guy in the arm with a knife, on his own yard, haven't you read that? Surely you wouldn't expect anyone to have a friendly attitude after that.
Giving out their home address didn't work out well for Tony Stark in "Iron Man 3" or for this guy in New Jersey , but they both had done things to get some people really annoyed with them.
So at the very least make sure that you don't have anyone out there who is really annoyed with you and has only been prevented from forcefully expressing that annoyance because they do not know where you live.
Even still, would 4chan really dare mess with someone's kid? Generally they try to avoid going to prison, or vigilante retribution.
I guess you're right though. Thanks for pointing that out. I can think of a few ways 4chan could troll someone's child without risking themselves.
It all started when he posted his address online.
I live in a small town myself, relatively speaking (St. Louis isn't exactly a tech hub), so I was thinking that might guard me somewhat. But, my follower count keeps growing for some reason, and stuff like this has been more and more on my mind.
I appreciate it. If you have any links to further info, I'd be curious to read. Otherwise, no worries.
Generally is an important distinction though ;).
Living in fear of falling out of that "generally" is probably not fun.