“As the Web grew, the average level of sophistication of users dropped. It was hard to explain the importance of privacy to them”
Chaum certainly was ahead of his time, and what he said will deeply resonate with any privacy advocate.
Now, more than two decades later, I believe his idea has much more potential.
Firstly people are a lot more educated, about how the web works in general, how valuable privacy is and about the strength of cryptography.
Secondly, it is no secret anymore that Visa et al. blatantly sell any data they have on their customers.
And lastly, any entity that wants to do business online or via card transactions has to pay high fees to Card/payment providers.
An open standard of electronic cash could solve these issues perfectly, undermining the existance of companies that only exist because they have a license.
> Firstly people are a lot more educated, about how the web works in general, how valuable privacy is and about the strength of cryptography.
I don't think you can support this claim. Today, 96% of iPhone users opt out of tracking [1]. However previously I remember a similar number of users not turning off tracking when it was an opt out option in Settings (can't find the sources). This inconsistency between opt-in and opt-out behavior means one thing: users generally don't care and neither do they understand what privacy means. Because otherwise the difference between the two approaches would have been smaller.
> An open standard of electronic cash could solve these issues perfectly
The reason this is not happening is, or not so fast anyway, is I think (1) people tend to trust government-backed currencies and (2) converting such currency to any other form is a friction point. I get my hard earn money in govt.-backend currency on my card from a bank that is tightly regulated and has govt. protection and guarantees. Then I pay from the same card. Because card network fees are not immediately visible to the consumers, they generally don't care about them, just the same way they don't care about privacy.
In other words, safety and frictionless trade overweighs privacy. At least today.
You are talking about a new type of digital cash, now look at some societies like Germany where about half of all transactions still takes place in cash (!). Germany is a country that's probably most privacy aware in the developed world, they don't have Google Street View for example. So instead of moving towards the unknown, privacy-aware societies seem to do the opposite, they go back to paper money.
Neither do we want to have ways of spending more, I think the humanity is slowly rolling back from the consumerist mode d'emploi of the late previous century.
So the picture is not as simple as we want it to be when it comes to earning, safely storing and spending our hard earned cash.
Yes, my statement might have been slightly too euphoric, however, let me provide some counter examples.
> Users generally don't care and neither do they understand what privacy means.
I agree with you that there is still a lot of ground to gain, however there are also signs of change, one of which Signal's strong growth in the past months (1). There were weeks where I would get a message that someone from my contacts installed the app every day. This was, of course, triggered by WhatsApp's change of TOS.
I believe that IF there is a privacy-enhancing alternative that is comparably comfortable to use, people do migrate. This would also agree with your claim that users take whatever's default.
Your remarks about trust and interoperability are very valid in my view also. To solve both of this, it would, I believe, need a system that is government backed, open standard and free of charge. The latter might of course be a little optimistic, however not impossible; especially European countries provide/host many administrative services for free, why not subsidize such a system as well.
I am thinking of a coin-based system where coins are created/distributed by each bank separately and can be either transferred seemlessly to another owner or exchanged at that bank for a regular currency. In terms of convenience, this could be as easy as scanning a QR code or a similar mobile implementation and should be no obstacle.
> Look at some societies like Germany where about half of all transactions still takes place in cash.
This is true, however especially due to the pandemic, there was a considerable shift towards cashless (2). In Munich area, for example, most of time I see people pay, they use debit or credit cards, especially young people.
And lastly, the connection to the amount of the expense is not clear to me, how does the amount have anything to do with the means in this particular case?
I agree with you, that we might not be there yet, also because viable protocols are missing, but I still stand by my belief that the shift is possible and by magnitudes more likely than back in 1999.
So if I understand you correctly, digital cash is just a way of escaping the big two, Visa and MasterCard and their fees? Because otherwise, what'd be the essential difference between any govt.-backed digital money and the official one? What would be the exchange rate? Say 1-to-1 with Euro, or with the dollar? Then what's the point of having it in the first place?
I would say this would certainly add a lot of value in terms of privacy.
It is possible to create a scheme where transactions happen absolutely anonymously, both horizontally between payer and payee and vertically. Payments would thus be completely private given the used cryptography holds. However, it does require some authority that needs to be trusted, a national central bank for example. At this point, the currency would already be similar to regular cash in terms of trust and value.
"U.S. consumers are deeply wedded to credit cards," says CyberCash's Melton.
In the US we are forced into using credit cards in order to participate in society. People get credit checks to even rent an apartment now. And not being in debt is not good enough criteria to have "good credit". It's an example of rent-seeking behavior that has been grafted onto our economic culture while not providing any kind of benefit.
I've had a few american friends scoff at the chinese social score system, and then turn humbly quiet when I point out america has been under a similar system for years already. In true american spirit though, it's privatized.
Being forced to be in debt which you can manage if you are mature enough is nowehere comparable to having to agree to and behave in the line the autocratic rulers want.
Having good credit and paying bills in time is only a small part the Chinese social score system. These two are, in no way, meaningfully comparable.
Debt is a reality of modern life, not something you can opt-out of by reading the right self-help books. Control is bad, whether it's direct control by state actors or indirect societal control by credit agencies.
> People get credit checks to even rent an apartment now
Why wouldn't they? If you are entrusted with any asset, people want to know you can pay for damages.
> not being in debt is not good enough criteria to have "good credit"
A history of no debt is meaningless if you've never borrowed anything - I've never once failed to return a million dollars in cash when given to me; I've also never been entrusted with a million dollars in cash.
Truth is, the best assurance that someone will pay, is they have assets you could go after, and no other creditors that might come first. The more you limit the ways creditors can recover their losses, the more upfront assurance they will demand to cover the risk.
If this were the case, one would think that having a well-paying job and not having to borrow money would give one a good credit score. But it doesn't.
References from previous landlords, criminal history, and a lack of debtors would be a better indication of whether one would be a good tenant than if one financed a car and other things.
No, it isn't. Nobody was talking about blockchains that far back. What this is about is the early pioneers of the commercial digital payment market that was eventually dominated by the likes of Paypal and Stripe.
Chaum didn't invent p2p blockchains but his systems did have ledgers and stuff like anonymous payments between nyms.
Yes, the goal of DigiCash was that it would have occupied a similar place to Paypal (the goal of most early e-cash systems!) but the underlying technology was very different and a lot closer to what bitcoin became.
Chaum certainly was ahead of his time, and what he said will deeply resonate with any privacy advocate.
Now, more than two decades later, I believe his idea has much more potential.
Firstly people are a lot more educated, about how the web works in general, how valuable privacy is and about the strength of cryptography.
Secondly, it is no secret anymore that Visa et al. blatantly sell any data they have on their customers.
And lastly, any entity that wants to do business online or via card transactions has to pay high fees to Card/payment providers.
An open standard of electronic cash could solve these issues perfectly, undermining the existance of companies that only exist because they have a license.
Maybe the time has come for Chaum's legacy.