I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways
Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy.
There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better socioeconomically than even the white majority which is inconvenient to this narrative.
People on the right believes this shows white supremacy does not exist. People on the left thinks the notion of a model minority is a divide and conquer tactic to advance white supremacy. The left ironically still believes the Asian Model Minority is real, because it’s initiatives for equity usually does not extend to Asian people. To be more concrete, tech companies will have initiatives to hire more ethnic minorities, however Asians are usually precluded.
Reporting White on Asian violence fits in with the White Supremacy narrative.
Reporting Asians are victims to other ethnic groups would not advance the agenda that the oppressed group is worth helping.
I say “notion” for Asian being model minorities is because it depends on how you define success.
Asians have, on average, higher incomes than other groups in the US including whites. Asians are overrepresented in tech. However, when you look at senior and executive positions, Asians are underrepresented. This is known as the bamboo ceiling. Tech companies while left leaning is still predominantly white in management positions. Since the Trump era, the American right is often accused of supporting or being white supremacists. Additionally, to suggest Asians are victims is equivalent is equivalent to being a white supremacist (hence the movement is coined Stop Hate Asian rather than Stop Asian Racism, because the left believes Asians cannot be the victims of racism ). Like “minority”, the word “supremacy” is selective. The Trump base is lead by poor rural whites who hold little economic power. Meanwhile, their Silicon Valley counterpart is highly educated and affluent. Again, whites are at the top. As we know, tech has huge influence of media and access to information, and so ironically, tech companies are quite possibly the White supremacists. As an example of this irony in white liberals, there were documented examples of a white Black Lives Matter protester yelling in the face of a black police office telling them they were the racist ones.
This comment is rife with the bias that asians use to oppress other minorities, mainly blacks. Interestingly this is the one thing you do not allude to at all. You paint blacks as ignorant perpetual victims, you paint all whites as bad faith actors. This is the "asian hate" that never gets called out, this is why the name Latisha Harlins is never spoken and the perpetual racism of asians toward blacks never gets called out. Unfortunately stop asian hate is only seen as stopping hate directed toward asians, it would be a much more effective strategy if asians and all people would take this to mean asians should also stop the hate the direct at others.
I'm not sure where you get this. If anything, you're the one perpetuating the victimhood mentality right now
> This is the "asian hate" that never gets called out
First of all, I'm not fond of the #StopAsianHate movement. It is populated with the same ironic Silicon Valley hypocrisy, and many "Boba Liberals" who mansplain privilege to us all. But notice that they named it Stop Asian Hate instead of Stop Asian Racism, as to not steal the thunder of Black Lives Matter.
FWIW, I personally don't consider all of this Asian hate. I consider it racism towards Asian.
> you paint all whites as bad faith actor
Nope, mainly just the hypocrisy of privileged Silicon Valley types from the suburbs who post a picture with the one black friend they have and use minorities as an excuse to shed their white guilt, instead of actually paying principal on two acres and a mule
> Unfortunately stop asian hate is only seen as stopping hate directed toward asians, it would be a much more effective strategy if asians and all people would take this to mean asians should also stop the hate the direct at others.
Is Black Lives Matter's strategy to stop racism towards directed white people? Is it strategy to uplift other minorities, or to detract from it as you are now. Many Asian people believe they are allies with blacks, but many blacks reflect your sentiment that they are fighting their own battle. If you believe your own people's plight takes precedence over others, I think that's fair, just don't be ironic about it and call it out when other people ( such as myself ) do the same for their own.
> This is the "asian hate" that never gets called out, this is why the name Latisha Harlins is never spoken and the perpetual racism of asians toward blacks never gets called out.
I actually wrote a dozen paragraph follow up to another commenter from Australia who was confused by the newfound Asian resentment and whether it was due to immigration. I brought up Google searching "Rooftop Koreans" ( which you can argue is form of Asian victimhood) and the idea in the black community that Asian businesses profit off blacks, which I'm sure you believe in given the tone and sentiment you're expressing here. I deleted it because I felt this thread was over and no one was actually going to read it, and potentially it will just feed into the division because it's hard to decouple the recent years from politics.
There's countless Asians on the left aka "Boba Liberals" who are very keen on mansplaining white supremacy to everyone, and also reminding the history of blacks and asians, the good blacks has done for all minorities, and reminding the Asian community of anti-blackness. I've also seen this in the reverse with blacks being allies to Asians. Then I've also seen many people like you who presume Stop Asian Hate is a euphemism for anti-blackness. Maybe you're the one projecting your own assumptions about who is perpetrating the Asian hate crimes. Everyone is on a spectrum, but your response paints all Asians as anti-black, but would also explain why your belief template interpets my comment as saying all blacks are perpetual victims and all whites are to blame. It's not helping your cause at all when even the "Boba Liberals" feel betrayed that their support of others is not reciprocated.
I have no argument for any of these points, you are correct and I truly appreciate such a well though out response. I did not even know what a "Boba Liberal" was so I think I need to educate myself more on this topic.
One small NIT. I do not think I was "perpetuating" a victim mentality, but I can see how you may feel I was projecting.
Also, there are a number of asians who do in fact use "Stop Asian Hate" as a cloak for their own anti-black feelings. You should look into what is happening in Africa. Specifically Kenya.
I lived in Australia during the years of media panic about Asian immigration, in the one of the areas with the greatest immigration from Asia.
No one around me was panicking, our previously dull working class suburb was enriched and invigorated by the influx of new people. The hysteria came from people who didn't know immigrants personally but were perceiving immigration via the media,
the nefarious hordes they feared didn't exist, they were a nightmare whipped into existence by lazy reporting that optimises for maximum sensation from minimum effort that amplified the opinions of cranks.
Could something similar be happening in the US now? I believe that people universally care about their material conditions of their lives, about being treated with respect, and about the future for their children, but when these concerns are presented in the media it is the shrill and sensational voices that are amplified. No-one gets to see their perspectives communicated in way that resembles the true beliefs and everyone else seems trivial, idiotic and dangerous.
In recent decades, immigration animosity is usually directed towards Mexicans. Usually people are upset when they perceive their jobs are being "taken away", but the professions Asians are associated with in recent decades in accordance with that model minority myth are not the same set of jobs that are being threatened.
> I believe that people universally care about their material conditions of their lives, about being treated with respect
I think everyone would agree with this sentiment, however the far-left/medium-left now equate this sentiment to "All Lives Matter" and reaffirming white supremacy or even that Black Lives Don't.
I attended public school that was 25% black, 25% white, 25% latino, 25% asian. I always felt America was a tolerant place, but in recent years that has changed. The democratic party has shifted from the labor of party to being one of social issues and identity politics, while the republican party has in a way become about blue collar laborers. In my opinion, identity politics is to blame for this, but the situation is far too complex to point to a single or even a dozen things. I realized that, as a rule of thumb, most phenomenon in America can be parsed if you assume there is some private commercial interest at play. Things may start as grassroots, but eventually corporations taint the situation with their own agenda. Definitely Social Media and the attention economy which is fueled by controversy and polarization, "The Social Dilemma" may cover some of these bases.
Creating an anti-white narrative is an important part of very-far-left advocates, which is why the term POC (Person of Color) was created. ...to ensure that minorities that are not black are supportive of movements like BLM.
Reinforcing a narrative of white-supremacy is a key part of that strategy.
Australia is where Murdoch honed his craft before coming to the US. What makes you so sure that the anti white narrative you perceive is genuinely a left creation, and not a media figment to keep everyone furiously engaged with media. In my years in the US I spent time with Oakland anarchists and Texan republicans, and in neither place met the mindless automaton monsters the other side loathed. Murdoch always amplified and distorted to generate fear and disgust. There’s no shortage of idiots ready to talk stupid, or good people who can be edited to sound dumb and dangerous. Murdoch’s trick has always been to elevate these people as spokespeople, or representative of a wider group, and by doing so inflame.
It doesn’t need to be part of a plan to rule the world, it could emerge just from a desire to capture viewer attention, but the end result is we focus on the stupidest things say as the thing that defines them and the cause they advocate, and as a result we are made shrill and unintelligible to each other.
I try not to care if a BLM person says something stupid. I try not to care if an individual cop is not prepared to testify against a colleague, but the worst impulses human impulses in me really want to jump in and be inflamed, redirecting all my energy to the stupid and trivial, away from the collaboration and cooperation that actually solves problems
Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy.
There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better socioeconomically than even the white majority which is inconvenient to this narrative.
People on the right believes this shows white supremacy does not exist. People on the left thinks the notion of a model minority is a divide and conquer tactic to advance white supremacy. The left ironically still believes the Asian Model Minority is real, because it’s initiatives for equity usually does not extend to Asian people. To be more concrete, tech companies will have initiatives to hire more ethnic minorities, however Asians are usually precluded.
Reporting White on Asian violence fits in with the White Supremacy narrative.
Reporting Asians are victims to other ethnic groups would not advance the agenda that the oppressed group is worth helping.