It's likely not relevant to the sorts of jobs HN readers do, but in many countries, unemployment benefits can be tied to the beneficiary making positive efforts to find a job. Proving your efforts currently involves a lot of ad-hoc copying of emails and screenshots.
Likewise parents compelling little Johnny to get his A into G and get out there applying for jobs.
The interesting thing (or cautionary thing depending on pov) is that services like this have potential mega clients like national governments. One deal like that can make or break you.
Part of the value is to be disconnected from google/linkedin/FB for core planning operations. This is one of the reasons we are not integrating with LinkedIn profiles.
To your last point, we are working on some exciting features to extend the networking/fundraising/comms that you mentioned to bolster what is currently offered. Thank you for the input.
It was a weird scenario - people who probably needed it most either were too overwhelmed (and possibly jobless at that moment in time) with various application processes and "didn't have time" to learn something "new", or... tried it and "meh, I only apply to a couple places, I don't need to keep that much info".
An 'integrated' process would be great, but even ... 7-8 years ago, a lot of places were moving to automated candidate/submission HR systems, and doing email submissions was already locking you out of many applications. That was another piece of feedback - I have to put all this info in to job site ABC - duplicating it is too much work.
I was considering trying to monetize - but again, the people who seemed to need it most also had the least money (jobless, etc). Unsure how to get past that dynamic.
I learned far more about oauth/email integration than I wanted to (and half of that is probably useless now). I remember coming to the conclusion that, while google/gmail was a pain to use, they did at least let you do useful stuff. Yahoo and Outlook web mail integration stuff was painful to use and was extremely limited in comparison.
Mid 2000's time period, I ended up doing a job search that took me well over 100 outreaches, and took 3-4 weeks to get anything remotely close to fruitful. It was, essentially, a full time job for those weeks. The next time I was thinking I would have to go through that again, I built the version of what referenced above - initially for myself, then opened it up and solicited some feedback.
I was focusing more on the sending of the emails directly, with open tracking, email templates (search/replace with custom cv links, etc). Broader status tracking was there but not as visualized as what it seems this project is doing (and it looks nice from the screenshots).
Best of luck to you.
"8. Disclosure of Data
We may disclose personal information that we collect, or you provide:
(i) to our subsidiaries and affiliates;"
Could the policy be amended to be more descriptive in how personal information will be used? For example, I observe that the policy outlines several definitions that are to be used throughout, but specifically those two terms are not defined for users of the service who may be privacy-minded users.
Information is used to generate an automated in-app "Battery" score to give you an idea of how close you likely are to an offer across all applications.
Good luck with your product.
Click on see it in action and it takes me to a page that simply says "Welcome to our demonstration!" but nothing happens. When I click on the logo in the top left to go back to the homepage, it brings me to https://www.account.kiter.app. Clicking anything on that page gives me a popup stating "We didn’t find an account with those login credentials firstname.lastname@example.org"
As an aside, I like your use of the Chrome extension as I built something similar at my company for legal research.
If you're only applying for a very small handful of jobs (1 or 2), you probably don't need to use a CRM nor something resembling a CRM.
You mentioned new grads and that demographic is a big portion of our user base so far. That being said, in todays remote world, almost any talented potential applicant is probably monitoring a few opportunities, even if they are happy in their current role. The plugin (v1) will be a way for someone to capture down a role/company they might find on HN or twitter but are not ready to spend time applying for yet. I hope this is helpful.
If you're selective about the job you want then you have to cast your net far and wide until you find The One. Recruiters will ghost you, low salary bands will be withheld until the second or third call, you won't find out about team drama until one interviewer talks trash about another that you spoke to earlier, a remote job will magically turn into an on-site one because the recruiter told you incorrectly, your prospective manager will expect 60 hour weeks plus a mandatory on-call rotation with no compensation, twelve-hour-long coding assignments involving proprietary technologies and/or reverse engineering will be sprung on you prematurely, etc.
On the flip side of this you should know what it is that you're good at and want to do for a living. Since you know yourself better than any recruiter or future coworker the onus is somewhat on you to make sure that the positions you're considering are a good fit. You shouldn't, for instance, waste time interviewing for a mobile development job just because you built an app for your current employer for a few months once if you really aren't passionate about it and actually want to develop distributed back-end systems.
It's always better to hold out for a position that will set both you and your employer up for success. Taking a job just because it's there for a paycheck will leave both parties unsatisfied in the end.
You mentioned having success with a Trello board. Is there anything that you wished you could have had in addition at the time?
That said, as I have been considering building something like this, I’ve imagined that it could provide some of the value that Glassdoor and Levels.fyi both provide.
In my Trello board I take notes about the salary bands of each position, what questions are asked in each interview, and also how I’m feeling about each. If this information is handled properly, you can collect it and (perhaps for the free version) share this anonymously with other people.
That said, one thing I’m missing from my Trello board is versatility. I want to be able to record/update my experience/interview status with a company and then see that information represented in several different ways. Seeing a swim lane representation of interview stages is helpful (where Trello shines) but it also might be helpful to see it in spreadsheet form where I can sort based on certain attributes. Sometimes things don’t fit well in swim lanes.
One thing I do like about Trello is that I can basically journal about my experiences there, though it would be nice to see all my journal entries together in one place, rather than being forced to see them separated by card.
Feel free to reach out to me if you have more questions: bradydowling at gmail
I know that's a fortunate position to be in, but it's been a job-seeker's market for years. I feel like if you know your skills and value you can afford to be selective and focus your efforts on quality vs quantity. It obviously takes the stress off to already be employed and looking to move/upgrade. You can interview the companies as much as they are interviewing you.
I just forget what the status of each application was or is. When did I apply, when was the last communication and what was discussed. I just don't want to worry about any of it, so I write it down.
I wouldn't use an app like this because I would simply create another spreadsheet when I need it again, but I can see how it would be useful even for a small number of companies to track.
so an online service for keeping all information about their job search process may be helpful.
I use uBlock origin to block all external scripts and then the page is just white until I disable it, not a nice experience.
I tried to add my first Application and I'm getting: "Sorry, we ran into a temporary bug and can't complete your request. We'll fix it as soon as we can; please try again in a bit!" I basically only put in "Qualcomm" as the company name then https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/2403729547/ as the link and "Deep Learning SW Engineer - Embedded-AI-Framework" as the position, nothing more. I created a user with a email address, nothing more.
If you email me at email@example.com I can help further!
Unfortunately it looks like either something is botched with your Oauth Credentials for the project, or maybe you hit a rate limit.
I'm getting the following when attempting to sign in with Google.
Error 400: redirect_uri_mismatch
The redirect URI in the request, https://www.account.kiter.app/api/1.1/oauth_redirect, does not match the ones authorized for the OAuth client. To update the authorized redirect URIs, visit: https://console.developers.google.com/apis/credentials/oauthclient/220480969749-t7q92pteqn0rjp9ekjm89lrnnm94hdif.apps.googleusercontent.com?project=220480969749
The nature of the interviewing process is that the company manages it, the candidate just needs to respond to the recruiter and make themselves available for the subsequent steps of the process.
Unless I am missing something?
You're not always going through a recruiter or only a recruiter. Keeping track of all the names and contact info might pay off down the road as well.
Does Kiter have workflow tools to make those best practices easier? Or will it?
I’m thinking like email templates and a sending server so I can do cold outreach to a bunch of companies at once.
Or hook up my LinkedIn and get notified of people in my network who can help me get referred in to a company I added to Kiter. I know LinkedIn is hard to work with but I think Drafted is a tool that does this to help current employees refer new candidates in to their current employer.
One feature suggestion would be to add an export feature. This feature gives me peace of mind if the business flops, I didn't waste hours/days adding data to a black hole.
Good luck, and keep HN (or me directly, plz) informed of your success, difficulties, learnings, etc.
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