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I hope you're not talking about the CIA, whose network of agents in China (to pick one example) was rounded up and killed due to either shoddy IT work or a mole in the Agency. Either possiblity reflects poorly on the American intelligence community:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-espionage-idUSK...

>Investigators remain divided over whether there was a spy within the Central Intelligence Agency who betrayed the sources or whether the Chinese hacked the CIA’s covert communications system, the newspaper reported, citing current and former U.S. officials.

>The Chinese killed at least a dozen people providing information to the CIA from 2010 through 2012, dismantling a network that was years in the making, the newspaper reported.

>One was shot and killed in front of a government building in China, three officials told the Times, saying that was designed as a message to others about working with Washington.




This isn't a counter-argument against the person you're replying to, though. One can pick from numerous examples of the inverse(though the US doesn't round them up & disappear them, they go through the court system)


> though the US doesn't round them up & disappear them, they go through the court system

Yeah, unless you are suspected for terrorism. I recommend the movie named The Mauritanian.

> Mohamedou Ould Slahi (Arabic: محمدو ولد الصلاحي‎) (born December 21, 1970) is a Mauritanian man who was detained at Guantánamo Bay detention camp without charge from 2002 until his release on October 17, 2016.

> The book, Guantánamo Diary, was published in January 2015. It is the first work by a still-imprisoned detainee at Guantánamo. It provides details of Slahi's harsh interrogations and torture, including being "force-fed seawater, sexually molested, subjected to a mock execution and repeatedly beaten, kicked and smashed across the face, all spiced with threats that his mother will be brought to Guantánamo and gang-raped.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamedou_Ould_Slahi


In a country of 330 million people, with massively global interests, you're going to have to do a lot better than rare examples.

In a country so large with so many different government agencies, entities, organizations, and interests, just about anything you can think of will have happened at some point. The question is whether it's going on at large scale, whether it's the common practice or rare.

You're trying to use one example to prove that the practice is common, when in fact that's false, it's not common it's rare. It's the exception, not the rule; which is exactly why it makes for an attention getting story.


I have no idea whether it is happening or not at a large enough scale. I did not mean to prove anything, just wished to shed light on it.

How do we know it is not happening though? Think about pre-Snowden.


> In a country of 330 million people, with massively global interests, you're going to have to do a lot better than rare examples.

USA doesn't have massive global interest. Maybe its companies, but not it's state. USA is a very insular, and static system of a state.

It's a good example what happens in those very few cases when the machine of US state moves, and what is characteristic of it.

A meaningful political reform will start with somebody starting to uncork it, and forcefully subjecting it to contact with outside world.


Okay, first of all, we have no reason to remotely assume those executed were CIA agents; it’s far(far) more likely they were CIA assets, local people recruited by agents to sell secrets. Assets are captured regularly.

Even still, do you expect any intelligence agency to be perfect? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove here.




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