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Ask HN: What's your keyboard and what you love and hate about it?
25 points by exebook on April 30, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 116 comments
I spent two month looking for a keyboard I would really love, every evening I would watch and read reviews, visit maker sites, browse endlessly Amazon, Aliexpress, Ebay, often until almost morning, it was almost an obsession. Finally I settled on something and now using it for a year, but I was super frustrated by lack of quality keyboards on the market and narrow range of offers in terms of layouts, colors and many other things. Especially membrane keyboards, they are all the same, and not what I like.

So what is your keyboard and what you like and hate about it? As for me I settled on Keychron K1 because even though it is mechanical it is as close to membrane as possible, super thin and silent. Also it has the IBM M1 but without a numeric layout which I personally prefer.




I still use my IBM Model-M from 1986. I have 2 of these that I got at the Trenton State Computer Festival (NJ) in 1992.

I had no idea what I was buying when I spent $4 for 2 disgustingly dirty keyboards back when I was 15. I've taken good care of both of them for nearly 30 years and they both still look new.

I've tried some more recent high-end mechanical keyboards, but I ended up giving them to my son. I just like the feel of the Model M more and I can type significantly more accurately with it. My Model M has no issues working with a ps/2 to usb adapter, so one is my daily driver and the other I connect to my KVM for my older PCs. I don't have any connection issues or latencies and they are fine for gaming. I do miss some of the media controls, but I mostly resolved that by using an external audio device.

I'm not really a purest with this stuff, I have lots of newer keyboards including current apple hardware, but I go back to this keyboard for my PCs because I really enjoy using it. I'm not against swapping it out, I've just not been compelled to yet.


For anyone who wants to try a Model M or had them and misses them, Unicomp continues to make them (in the original factory): https://www.pckeyboard.com/. They're even made with USB now, so PS/2 adapters aren't necessary :). Of course, there are also a bunch of older ones on eBay as well - as bstar said, they're built like tanks.

I used a Model M when I was younger and loved it, I'd probably get a used one or buy a Unicomp one if they weren't so dang big.


If you buy at Unicomp, I'd recommend the New models. There are two. A full size and a compact. They have better finish than all their other models. Check the review of the full size New Model M here: https://sharktastica.co.uk/articles/newm_review.php

You can find the new Mini M here: https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/MINI_M


That's really interesting, I didn't know about these. $104 seems like a pretty solid deal too. Only thing is that the cable doesn't appear to be replaceable. I swap out different length cables quite a bit so this is a little disappointing.


Model M! Fascinating, are they so durable to last 30 years or you need to fix a key or two once in a while?


One of the cost cutting decisions when designing the Model M was using plastic rivets. Some of these rivets break and the keys stop responding. My 1997 keyboard still have all the rivets intact, so I suppose that it might have to do with the treatment that the keyboard receives. This video shows how to replace the rivets with bolts: https://youtu.be/dStgzMpOTOA

Sometimes the circuit board might fail too. You can find replacement boards for them too. My keyboard is a 4th generation, which is almost identical to the design sold by Unicomp today. The circuit board died last year and another Model M user designed a compatible circuit board that adds full programability with the QMK keyboard firmware, so I will install that one instead. In addition to programability (Win/Command key, international characters, emojis), the new board converts the keyboard to USB. So yeah, this circuit board really modernizes the keyboard.

https://beta.docs.qmk.fm/


I've not had to do anything other than light cleaning. When I moved a few years ago all of my keyboards were in the same box. Apparently it got really hot because a smaller (TKL) style Lexmark era IBM keyboard in that box melted, but my 2 Model Ms were fine.

These things are built like tanks. I don't think I'll ever have to do any repairs on them.


I got one as a present 1991, but I switched to MX Red as I age. My next keyboard will be MX Speed Silver.


I like the Cherry reds too. I don't think you can go wrong with any high end keyboard, I just don't care for rgb lighting.


Keychron K6. I made some small modifications - I changed the switches to Gateron yellows, lubed the switches and added some foam inside the case. Using the red switches without modifications was fine too and lubing all the switches is a pain, I probably wouldn't bother to do it again.

Things I like

- the footprint is small but it still has arrow keys

- nice and simple design - many mechanical keyboards look too much like toys for my liking, the Keychron design is a bit more neutral

- satisfying to type on

- affordable, mac-friendly, wireless

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The keyboard - https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mecha...

I followed this video for the mod (with slightly heavier switches) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCyKyA9JEPc


Skimmed through the video, it even has a coffee break! But didn't find the foam part, pretty curious about that part.


It's at 6:58.


I use a Makerdiary M60 open-source programmable keyboard that runs a Python variant: https://makerdiary.com/pages/m60-mechanical-keyboard

I tweaked the code a bit to customize a few things, but the main draw is actually the USB vs. Bluetooth functionality. I use two computers simultaneously (nowadays, a Mac and a PC) and ever since the advent of USB in the 1990's I've been looking for a KVM or USB switch that can instantly switch a single keyboard back and forth between two computers. I never found one--all of them have some delay or some other issue.

But the M60 is perfect in that regard. It connects to the Mac via Bluetooth, and to the PC via USB. A single keypress instantly switches it back and forth between the two. It keeps both connections live, and just swaps back and forth. It can also store separately keyboard configurations for each, so I set it up to swap the Alt/Command keys on the Windows/USB side.

It's not perfect in other ways. There are a few bugs with the Python code base, and the maintainer has been slow to update it. Also, it's a bit weird to have a keyboard that has to reboot if you cut the power. But it's reliable and has served me well for months now, and there is nothing else like it.


That keyboard looks very interesting. I just wish they had an ortholinear variant


That's funny that you mentioned Keychron K1, that's exactly the one I ended up with currently after trying many (probably a dozen or so) over the past decade.

I've decided that having low profile keys on a mechanical keyboard is the most important factor to me. It's more comfortable than regular height key caps. Aside from the Keychron K1, I also use a HAVIT one (full size, not TKL) for another desktop computer of mine, which I also enjoy.

For a period of time, I was obsessed with finding the perfect layout for use with a mac. The layout I found the closest to perfect was something like the Qisan Magicforce 68. I'm really used to using Home/End extensively to move to beginning of line and end of line while coding (I've been a Windows user all my life up until the last few years), while I didn't need the F-row and wanted to minimze my keyboard size.

Nowadays I've realized that I don't mind the keyboard size as much, so I'm happy to settle with a basic (and much more common) TKL layout, which is just a regular keyboard without the keypad.


We must have a similar taste because Havit(tkl) was also my second contender, I choose K1 because it was something like 1 mm thinner I recall.

Was considering smaller layouts as well, but when I tried "homeless" keyboards it felt painful, interesting you mentioned Windows that's probably the true reason to be addicted to home/end.

TKL stands for tenkeyless if anyone wonders, ie without the numeric keypad.


which rev of the k1 did you end up with? I have the v3, and i get weird doubled keys with only one keypress, usually with the D key, but occasionally with others. THats my only complaint but I'm not sure if its an issue with my keyboard, or across the board.


"Logitech Internet Navigator Keyboard". https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=Logitech+Internet+Navigator...

I literally picked it from a box of trash I walked by a few years ago because my old keyboard was broken. I never had a keyboard I didn't like. Maybe I am an outlier or are the people who are so extremely concerned about their keyboards actually a small but very vocal minority?


I think you are right. I never think about my keyboard at all. None of my co-workers do either <shrug>.


My story is that I was like that for exactly 20 years then I switched to a laptop, it took me a while to get used to it's keyboard, but fast forward another 8 years I decided to build a PC instead of laptop and bought an office keyboard in a supermarket for it, and threw it away few weeks later, I simply wasn't able to work, then I bought and threw away three more. Probably that Acer R1 spoiled me.


A Durgod TKL (cherry brown) and a Ducky One 2 TKL (cherry blue). In general I prefer the brown keys. For me TKL is a must as I like having the mouse close to the keyboard, and having the keyboard centered.

For the durgod, the + is that it has a USB-C connector. For both i wish that the connector was deeper so that the channel to guide the cable on a side would be usable without an angled cable (which they don't provide).

I also like that both are no-hassle. They don't have any fancy features and are relatively inexpensive (wrt other mechanical keyboards).


I also use a Ducky One 2 TKL with Cherry Reds in it. It's been my main keyboard since early 2020, for work, very little gaming... I think the price/performance/feel ratio is perfect. I think I paid $80-90USD for it. The keys have a great tactile response, it's not super loud or clacky. It's a plastic tank and feels like it's built to last.

The USB C connector is a great addition I didn't consider beforehand. I can leave USB C cables plugged into multiple computers and switch keyboards really quick. I've grown to find it very useful.

I may pickup one of the Keychron wireless keyboards in the near future for my personal mac setup, and seeing the comments in this thread about them is definitely influencing me...


Ah, correction indeed, mine is a Ducky One (not 2), so I still have a micro-usb connector there. Since I swap computers a lot I do have a 2-way usb KM, to be able to quickly move the mouse, keyboard, mic and webcam between them.


I use the keyboard that comes with my mac, I love that I can program every key on it into custom modifiers.

https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/macos/macos-apps/karabiner


I have a Dygma Raise. Love that it is split with a normal (not ortholinear) layout. Still getting used to the layers.

https://dygma.com


I use (and love) a Kinesis ergonomic keyboard. This one happens to be an Advantage2, but I've been using them for 20+ years now all the way back to what's now called the Classic but probably before it was called that.

Love the ergonomic hand positioning/dished layout, the switch feel (Cherry browns, I think), the thumb switches for space, enter, backspace, delete, and command, and the full programmability of the keys. I used to use foot pedals when I coded in Emacs all day; I didn't bother setting them back up when I moved into my home office during pandemic as I spend more time in Excel than Emacs nowadays.

The only thing I don't like about it is when it's time to play Minecraft with the kids, the spacebar is impossible to reach with your left hand while keeping on the shift/WASD keys, so I switch out to an RF Logitech for serious play with the kids. I suppose I could add that it does slow my typing and reduce accuracy somewhat on a traditional keyboard (such as on a laptop or in a conference room), so I sometimes feel slightly frustrated when I'm forced to use one of those [or look like a clown who can't even type while doing so]. That's zero factor since widespread WFH and I don't think is a reason to avoid it, but it's a small thing.


I've wanted to like the these keyboards, but the relocation of some keys (particularly the parenthesis keys) and the spongy escape key (Vim user) did my touch-typist programmer's brain in. It was hard enough trying to adapt to the different feel, without trying to adapt to those new key positions at the same time.


Also a Kinesis user myself. It's the only keyboard that has helped me avoid wrist pain during intensive coding sessions.


Almost forgot since it's a recent purchase! For working on my laptop long stretches and for typing with the iPad, I just picked up a Nuphy Type 1 (https://nuphy.com/collections/shop/products/nutype-f1) and I really like it. It uses Kailh Choc switches, which are mechanical low-travel switches that are the predecessor to the Kailh Box switches—I got the white variety since I like the clicky.

What I love: it's portable, and includes its own wrap-around case with magnetic clip at the bottom that folds up to make a stand for your mobile/iPad. It also has little cut-out bits on the bottom that slot perfectly into the keyboards on the 2016+ MacBook Pro (the butterfly-keyboard models) because the inventor wanted a better keyboard for his laptop. So once you slip it onto the laptop it clicks into place on the top and then it includes a short USB-C cable to plug it into the side port. It also does 3-device Bluetooth with a keyboard shortcut to switch profiles, so you can tap away on your laptop with it and then hit a key combo and type on your iPad. The switches are nice: clicky, but not so penetratingly loud that you couldn't work with it in a public place. For the times that I'm having to do long-form writing or a lengthy stretch of paper-grading on my laptop, it's a terrific purchase, and it makes typing out stuff on the iPad MUCH nicer than trying to tap on the screen.

The downsides: It's a near-exact copy of the MacBook Pro keyboard layout, so you're missing a lot of keys from a larger-sized keyboard. Since it closely matches the laptop layout I can put my brain in laptop mode and deal with it, but it's annoying to be missing things like F-keys. Also the right shift is in a weird spot because of the way they jammed the arrow keys into the layout, so that took a little getting used to. It's also not terrifically light since the aluminum frame is really solid: it's not awful, but it's also not nearly as feather-light as the Magic Keyboard I had been using with my iPad. Also, while the switches are good, the way they've constructed the stabilizers for the larger keys is a little weird and it makes things like the space-bar a little squishier than I like. And the keycaps are technically hot-swap, but I can't imagine finding a set from anyone but Nuphy that would fit this thing.


I also have the Keychron K1 (full size), but an older revision. My priorities were: Mac layout, reliable, relatively quiet, full size, and not obnoxiously ugly. The K1 checked all of those boxes (once I confirmed I could turn off the multicolor backlight).

They’ve improved one of my main complaints by making the keys not entirely flat. Which potentially could help mitigate my other major complaint: there isn’t enough space between the columns, I often mistakenly hit insert when I mean to hit backspace, and even more often miss when trying to use the arrow keys.

A minor complaint is, like many keyboards offering both Mac/PC layouts, the number pad is still not quite familiar.

All of that said, it’s probably the best keyboard I’ve owned since I gave up on trying to keep an Apple Extended working. I’ve been through too many Matias keyboards and they’re nice but too unreliable. And I won’t even bother trying to remember the half dozen other brands I’ve tried, they’ve all been disappointing particularly on a Mac.


I have entirely flat one and still occasionally hit wrong keys, ie CAPS when I aim at A, never occurred to me the flatness could be the reason. Though it's not happening as often after almost a year of use.


Oh yeah I trigger caps all the time too! I do think the slightly concave keys help, assuming the meta/modifier keys are flat or convex. It’s one more tactile hint when you overshoot your target key. It also looks like the newer version has increased spacing between keys overall, which probably helps too.


Here's a pic: https://twitter.com/KarlTheCool/status/1388185172189741064

It's the YMDK Split 64: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000074426801.html

I wanted a split for ergo while working and an easier time gaming since I play with my keyboard 90 degrees. Not many options in the split market, but hot swappable is a killer feature considering the price difference between switches and a new keyboard. The small right shift was a pain since it's the one I use the most but I got used to it. Other than that the firmware is programmable so you can do whatever you want.

I have it paired up Kailh speed copper switches. They feel like laptop switches where there's no travel before the bump. You're just immediately pressing the bump.


HHKB Professional 2 (https://www.hhkeyboard.com/uk/products/pro2/).

Likes: It's the best, most reliable 60% keyboard I've found, and that's the size I strongly prefer. It's very compact, it's comfortable, and the layout of keys that are often weird on 60% layouts (e.g. arrows, tilde) are sensible.

I've tried a number of other 60% models and they all either had lousy layout decisions or just weren't very reliable (I had two KBParadise V60s have certain keys start to fail in < 1 yr). Both my HHKBs are going strong after several years.

Dislikes: Topre switches are... fine. Way better than most membrane keyboards, but I would prefer proper mechanical Cherry or Gateron switches. (If you like the mechanical feel but not noise, you may very well like Topres, FWIW.)

You probably saw the other recent thread about mechanical keyboards at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26989563 - a lot of the comments there match my experience. There's cool stuff in the mechanical keyboard community, but there's also a lot of unreasonable pricing and small-batch manufacturing with less-than-reliable quality/consistency. I sort of pigeonholed myself by developing a strong preference for a 60% layout - there are a lot more options out there for larger keyboards. But once I decided that it was 60% or bust, HHKB became the natural choice. It's the only keyboard of this general form factor I've found that is basically a commodity, meaning 1) I'm confident of what I'm getting when I buy it, 2) the price is reasonable and 3) I'm also confident the company will still be around and making a similar product in 5-10 years if I need to buy another one.


I've had this one for six months and I've never felt so enamored with a PC accessory: https://drop.com/buy/drop-alt-mechanical-keyboard

I had a Das keyboard before this for ~6 years, and it was great, but I just didn't love it like I love this one.

Things I love:

- The body is weighty aluminum. It feels really solid and looks fantastic.

- The keys are made of very high-quality plastic (Doubleshot PBT) and feel noticeably more premium even than the ones on my Das, almost like they're made of metal.

- Each key has an independent LED, and the border around the outside is made up of 38 more independent LEDs, all of which can be configured

- Key switches (not just caps) can be swapped out without any soldering. This is a very unique feature; I don't really take advantage of it personally, but if it's something you care about it's great to have.

- There is no background software that ever has to be installed on your computer for configuration or otherwise. There are some prebuilt configurations you can toggle with the keys alone, and then for detailed layers/keymapping/LED mapping, you use their web portal to generate and download a whole new ROM and then you flash it directly onto the keyboard. The process is pretty straightforward, and this means it works across OSes and you never have to worry about what else a local daemon might be doing on your computer. You can even program it yourself by hand using QMK, if you're feeling adventurous.

This is a 65% keyboard, so if you need the dedicated function keys and/or Insert/Home/etc, there's an 80% (ten-key-less) version called the CTRL which has everything except the numpad (and all the same wonderful traits above)


I like the CTRL layout. Actually, I like almost everything about it.

But I don't want to abuse my luck. There are people still experiencing chattering issues with this keyboard as recently as this year, even when the issue was supposed to be fixed in 2019. I read that the Drop Alt also suffered this issue. People recommend changing switches but come on, you don't need to do this when having a good design. This problem is not that common with other keyboards - you don't have to throw away your switches because your keyboard doesn't like them.

There are also different denouncing algorithms in QMK (but you can implement custom, more advanced methods). The thing is that I expect my products to be fully tested working before I buy them.


Fwiw I've never had any problems with mine. I am still using the stock switches though


This video does a well explanation of how time and money consuming the hobby of having custom mechanical keyboards is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWm40Tq4F4 I entered having a Keychron K2 with brown switches and I thought that was it, that was going to stop there and never invest in another one. But I started watching videos about how switches work, how people assemble their own open hardware keebs, how to lub switches, how to lub stabs, and then 1 year later I ended having 7 keyboards, plenty of switches sets, bough my soldering station to continue soldering diodes and leds to open hardware pcbs to make custom split rare keyboards... man... save yourself if you're still out of this addiction. Save your time and your money and go and hang out with people. Save your soul.


InputClub K-Type currently with Cherry MX Browns and MT3 profile Susuwatari caps.

I'm a fan of the TKL layout because I never used the numpad. I wouldn't go smaller because I have muscle memory for using the navigation keys and I use the F keys often. Browns give me a slight feedback when pressing they key and aren't too noisy or heavy. The MT3 profile feels the nicest of any I've tried. It has different heights for each row and a nice curve on top for your fingers to sit in.

For the board itself, it's got a nice metal chassis, though I still don't love the look of the floating keys. The configurator is handy, but I really wish changes could be done on-the-fly instead of requiring a reflash. I'm not into the flashy RGB stuff, but I do have the lighting enabled on the board. It's okay and I like the presence of the accent strip around the bottom but I wish it was more uniform. The light goes through a diffuser but there's still hot spots where the LEDs are.

Being able to hot swap the switches is a nice feature, but I think the mounting plate tolerances are too wide. I've swapped the switches out a few times and managed to fold the fragile pins completely over. I can't feel if that's happening because each slot requires different pressure to get the switch in (some require enough force that they're mildly painful!)

So I'm not sure I would recommend this exact board, but if I were to buy yet another mechanical keyboard it wouldn't be too different from this one.

EDIT: Forgot to add that the stabilizers that come with it are very rattly. I got better ones, but the plastic that mounts in place is very slightly larger than the holes. I had to force it in and let the edge of the aluminum shave off the plastic. I think this size difference makes them a bit tighter than they're supposed to be which was actually a problem for one type of switch I tried that didn't push back with enough force to overcome the friction of the tactile bump and the friction of the stabilizer bar.


Goldtouch V2 folding keyboard.

Likes: Nice smooth keys, adjustable in multiple axes. Been using this GT board since the late 90's. It has no "bumper" for resting your wrists, which I like a lot because I also use an ergo chair that keeps my wrists elevated off the desk.

Dislikes: wish it had a usb hub so I could plug in my mouse and gaming pad. I also wish Mac & Win woudl stop fighting and use one ALT key. Enough with the mac and windows specialty keys. We only need SHIFT, CTRL and ALT. /endrant/

https://shop.goldtouch.com/products/goldtouch-v2-adjustable-...


For my personal desktop PC I've gone through a few mechanical keyboards of various switch types. Never got that into it as a hobby or anything like some people (expensive and honestly I don't care THAT much)

For work they provided me an Apple magic keyboard, and as much as those mechanical keyboard guys like to hype their fancy keyboards up... I actually think I like the Apple keyboard more. I can type faster and more comfortably with it. I did a typing test on both keyboards the other day and was getting around 80-90wpm on the mechanical keyboard, but with the Apple keyboard I could consistently get closer to 100. I think it's something about the low key travel, I can key my inputs in much faster.


Drop Alt for daily use, BM43A for fun.

I can never go back to a keyboard without something as flexible as QMK. I wrote a bit about why I love it so much: https://jkaptur.com/layout/.


This. I see reviews in YouTube from people that only care about how the keyboard sounds. Who cares how it sounds if I can't customize the layout? If can't program the keyboard to work exactly how I expect it to work? I can't believe that those reviewers talk about the hardware and the sound, but never cover the firmware customization capabilities in their reviews. I want to know if a keyboard is compatible with QMK. If the support comes from mainline QMK or a custom repository, what is the address of the web configurator and if it also supports customization VIA (only for resale value - will not use it personally).


I’m a huge fan of my Ergodox EZ. Picked up one for home and one for work from https://ergodox-ez.com/

It runs QMK (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/) and is very customizable.

More links:

- https://blog.ivansmirnov.name/what-is-an-ergodox/ - https://people.ergodox-ez.com/ivan-smirnov/


Since I've been working from home I've been exclusively using my MacBook Pro 2015 keyboard. I can type as fast as I can think and I have no wrist/hand strain - even after using it all day. Some friends of mine are into the mechanical keyboards. Didn't work out as well for them as they'd hoped - they can't use their keyboard during a meeting without muting because it sounds like an artillery unit is on the move. Others had the issue that the keyboards were driving their spouses crazy. At least you chose a mechanical keyboard that's silent!


Same here. I'm not too sensitive about the tools I used.

For work I use the keyboard of my 2019 MacBook Pro and I like it. It doesn't get in my way and I don't really notice it. So it's perfect for my use case.


Vortex race 3 w/cherry mx silent red switches.

Pros: has function, arrow, home/end keys while still being compact. Very quiet. Solid build quality. Fully remappable without requiring software.

Cons: doesn’t make awesome clicky sounds

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Leopold fc750r w/cherry mx blue switches

Pros: CLICKY, more space than the compact race 3, comes in a lovely classic PC beige color

Cons: too loud for a room with other people in it

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Vortex pok3r w/cherry mx silent red

Pros: very compact, quiet

Cons: missing too many keys for me to use for anything except gaming.

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Apple wireless magic keyboard

Pros: quiet, wireless, rechargeable

Cons: no full size arrow keys, pairing with multiple computers is a pain in the ass

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Surface designer compact keyboard:

Pros: wireless, easily pairs with multiple computers, long battery life

Cons: No full-size arrow keys


I use a Dell KB813t. Standard company issue smartbadge keyboard. Can't get a different keyboard without two levels of management approval (and there aren't any available keyboards due to cost cutting), and I cannot bring in my own without cybersecurity and customer approval.

My poor wrists.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-keyboard-smartcard-usb/...


I use a TrulyErgonomic keyboard. I like its small footprint, so I can easily reach the mouse. The keys are customizable, which allows me to accommodate the keys to my typing pattern.


This looks really interesting! Thinking this could replace my Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 (which I still love, but quite like no numeric keypad so closer mouse).


I still swear by the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000[1]. Very comfortable keyboard. I think I’ve gone through about three of them, one of which lasted so long that the little knobs on the J and F keys wore away and I had to score them with an old soldering iron. The split, ergonomic layout is what I love most about it - elbows out and shoulders relaxed. On straight keyboards I feel very hunched up. A version without the numeric keypad would be nice.

I’ve tried the Sculpt keyboard, and just not as good for me. I’ve got one in the drawer as a backup, but I just don’t like the feel of it - especially the spongy escape key (Vim user).

The X-Bows Knight[2] looks interesting to me. The largely standard layout but with the extra thumb buttons appeals. The lack of tenting does not. Tempted to try it out. Want to reduce pinky usage and more thumb keys seems like the way to go.

[1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/p/natural-ergonomic-keyboard...

[2] https://x-bows.com/products/x-bows-knight-ergonomic-mechanic...


I have a scissor switch keyboard because I loved an old Logitech keyboard and when I wanted to replace it, it was no longer made!

The particular keyboard I use is a gaming model from Cougar. Scissor switches and N-key rollover was hard requirements. Unfortunately this meant I couldn’t get a Swedish layout like I wanted, but gaming + scissor is a rare enough combination that I still got it (and bought 3 at the same time so I wouldn’t end up like last time).


Never came across Cougar, they have some cool looking scissor /membrane keyboards, but neither is TKL, sad. I can understand why you buy three items at once if you like it!


I use a Durgod Taurus K320 TKL Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 87 Keys, Cherry Silent Red keys, Space Grey: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QK16RDQ

Despite the "gaming" in the name, it's not a """Gaming keyboard"""

Here's what I like about it:

- Wired: I use a wireless mouse but always want a hardwire connection for my keyboard as it's the one thing I need to work exactly 100% of the time

- Quiet & Mechanical: I like having mechanical quality keyboards but find the typical noise of most mechanical keyboards to be far too disrupting

- TenKeyless but otherwise full-sized: I don't need or ever use a number pad. I'd much rather have my mouse closer to the home row. I like having a full set of F1-12 keys and the standard Home/End/Arrow Key cluster

- Classic look: I find the RGB/backlit aesthetic to be gaudy and tacky. I like dark greys. This keyboard matches perfectly with my Logitech MX Master 2S next to it.

- Solid build

Most importantly, it's a keyboard that's let me forget about it. It Just Works.


I've got this: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k1-wireless-mecha...

I love how its not tall like most mechanical keyboards, and the feel is pretty decent. its not at all loud either.

Its pretty awesome all around, but I do have a weird issue with my `D` key doubling up.


Did you try connecting it to other computer? This sounds like an OS problem to me.


I’ve got it hooked to another Mac right now, but haven’t done much typing on it yet. I’ve got some other weird is level things happening on that Mac, so a reinstall may be in order regardless

ETA: can't make the new mac do it at all. Guess a reinstall of the personal one is in the works this weekend.


Check out the Fujitsu Realforce R2. Was just discussing this in the other keyboard thread.

https://fujitsuscannerstore.com/cg01000-291001/

You will find these to be very expensive and not to everyones taste. If you have been using a mechanical keyboard with lots of force required to depress keys, this one is going to feel like its not there at all. It is also extremely quiet. You can be typing fairly aggressively and no one would be able to tell 1 cube over.

I feel like this keyboard is for those who have the patience to reform certain typing habits. My first few days with it were a dumpster fire because my hands were so used to slamming the shit out of Cherry MX Blue switches. Once I became adjusted to it, I felt like the keyboard on my late 2013 macbook pro is too stiff by contrast.

Overall, my ability to code for long duration without hurting has improved dramatically with this keyboard. 80g+ of force will wear you the fuck out if you are pushing those things thousands of times a day.


Great pick, looks very much to my liking, I love the colors that are kept close to original IBM keyboards. And your description is convincing. No surprise I never came across it, they sell it in the scanner store. For 230-250 it must be very well made.


I've always liked Apple's low-travel keyboards. I know some love them and some hate them, but I've always loved them.

I've never heard anyone go into this, but I wonder if these low-travel keyboards are better for things like repetitive motion injury potential. No idea.

I also have a Das Keyboard that I like but I stopped using it because it's the clacky type and it's too loud on calls.


same, after having issues with pain for a while I love how little effort the Apple keyboard takes to press the keys. I just wish the Magic Keyboard came in black.


Yeah I want a black one with Touch ID on it. The Touch ID thing now exists apparently, but I don't think they're selling it separately yet. I run my laptop in clamshell mode when docked and it'd be nice to have that instead of typing my password.


It will require an M1 to work, apparently.


Keyboard enthusiast + preference for thin membrane keyboards is an uncommon combo. You won't like my keyboard, but:

hhkb pro 2 I love the way typing feels Have no qualms https://www.amazon.com/Fujitsu-Hacking-Keyboard-Professional...


I have an AEK64 (https://i.redd.it/jqm5upnc1gfx.jpg) that I've been using for the past 4+ years.

It's a 60% keyboard that I built by harvesting the switches (dampened cream ALPS) and Keycaps (PBT Dye Sub) from an Apple Extended Keyboard II, and then using Hasu's PCB and a custom laser cut plate and wooden case.

It's comfortable to type on (those old ALPS switches are much better than the modern switches), quiet, the keycaps are mac specific, and it looks great. I find no real downsides to a 60% layout, especially since it's programmable so I can map the keys however I want.

I went through a ton of different keyboards (everything from a Model M to an ortholinear to an Ergodox to a Topre board), and haven't found anything that I like better. So much so that I built 2 of them (for home and work) and then sold most of my other boards.


At work: Das Keyboard, with CherryMX Brown switches.

At home: Corsair K70, with CherryMX Brown switches.

I like CherryMX brown switches. They're a good balance of actuation force, slight click, but still rather quiet and with a decently long travel (so I'm less likely to bottom out the keys).

I like the K70 more because the open frame makes cleaning between the keys easier.

I like that the Das has a 2-port hub built in without using a second USB A slot like the K70 does.

I utterly hate keyboards without numpads, both have numpads.

I've used Unicomp model Ms (they bought the license from IBM), they're quite nice too but a bit louder and harder to actuate than I want. Likewise with CherryMX blue switches.

I've also used a Corsair keyboard with CherryMX red switches, those don't really have any detent and extremely low actuation force, so they're too easy to accidentally actuate when resting my hand on the keyboard.

I've never used a laptop keyboard I liked. Short travel distance is frustrating.


Kinesis Advantage 2:

Likes: The dished profile of the keys, which more naturally reflects the arch your finger tips travel, reducing the overall need for movement. While common among split keyboards, I also really like the thumb keys. I use emacs, so it's nice to have easy and comfortable access to all the modifiers.

Dislikes: Actually being split would be nice.


I have been using the Kinesis Advantage 2 with brown switched for 5+ years.

The biggest advantage is its ergonomic design. It's a fixed split with vertical keys and good palm support. And main key clusters are concave/dished and it feels more natural than flat or normal curved designs.

I also like that it is fully programmable. You have all the popular layouts by default and you can add your custom layouts, macros, remaps, and etc all onboard on hardware. So you don't need a software to customize it.

It took me two weeks to get used to it even though I was doing touch typing for a long time before that, and it took me a month to get back to my typing speed.

I've done some remapping to make it more comfortable for coding.

It's definitely not an ideal keyboard for gaming unless you make a dedicated layout for gaming.


I also use a Kinesis Advantage 2 (Cherry Brown).

Likes: Same as above. I'm impressed by the overall comfort of the keyboard, as I can use it all day with no joint pain or stress. It's hard to imagine a more comfortable and healthy keyboard for the long term.

Dislikes: The lack of a numpad is troublesome sometimes, but it makes sense for a keyboard with such a radical commitment to ergonomics. Gaming with it can be challenging, requiring me to pull out a different keyboard. Also, this might sound really petty, but the sound is less satisfying compared to my previous Fission MX Cherry Brown keyboard. The clacks reverberate through the large hollow chassis with a lower pitch. I even put a sock inside the keyboard to dampen the sound, which was only partly effective.


I also have an Advantage 2 (Cherry MX browns).

Likes: The ergonomics! This keyboard is really comfortable to use for long stretches. It has reduced the strain of using the computer. Thumb keys are great.

Dislikes: It took me a while to get comfortable with it, especially for programming. I had to really focus on it for a while, but it was worth it! Also, as mentioned earlier, it's not great for games. The placement of some of the modifiers makes it difficult for some shortcuts, but you can always customize/reprogram it.


I'm ashamed to say I have had one sitting in its box for years while I use a crappy keyboard I got for free out of an IT closet at some point. Eventually I should commit some time to getting used to the Kinesis.


Kinesis Freestyle Edge here. More traditional layout, but is a split keyboard, and each half tents upwards toward the center for a more relaxed wrist angle while typing. Really enjoy it.


Switched recently to a Keychron K4 (v2), the aluminum/hot-swap model. It's heavy and solid, compact enough that I can have a numeric keypad without feeling like my trackball is off to the right somewhere in Narnia, and the default keycaps and lighting are (to me) really classy and good-looking.

I bought it with Gateron Reds (linear) and then swapped the core keys (alphanumerics, keypad) to Kailh Box Whites because I really like the clickiness. Weirdly, having the outer keys on a linear switch is pretty comfortable, probably because those are often hit with weaker fingers or odd angles, so having a light linear reduces finger fatigue. I absolutely love the clickiness, and the sound with the aluminum frame and the default keycaps is really solid. Once I got the default switches out (the tolerance in the aluminum frame is pretty tight, so getting the default switches out requires a really firm tug!), swapping switches on a whim is pretty easy, so I'm looking forward to playing with some other switches as we go.

On the down side, the absolutely uniform layout of the keys definitely throws my fingers for a loop. I'm used to TKL-style keyboards where the arrow keys or special modifiers up top are easy to find by touch because they're surrounded by a gap. That's no longer the case, so I had to get creative. At the moment, the solution is to use SA-profile keycaps on those keys, which are much taller than the default keycaps. It doesn't look wonderful, but it's pretty effective: I can now find the arrow keys pretty consistently without looking down, and I can find the middle of the numeric keypad thanks to the scooped 5 key in the center. I also miss having programmable macro keys, but I worked around it by using Karabiner to convert the NumLock key (which does nothing on Mac OS) to a Hyper key so that I can use that for key combos across the keyboard. And as an extra, a picked up a little six-key keypad (usually intended for Osu) that also has hot-swap switches, and I've been fiddling with programming that for extra macros like muting/unmuting in Zoom & Webex.


I'm using keyboard.io model 01, with the quiet switches, and in general really like it. Took a little getting used to, and I periodically find the lack of a right-hand Cmd button/left side option a little inconvenient, but overall it'd be _really_ hard to move back to standard layout kb.

Other complaint would be that self-serviceability of the switches is pretty poor (I broke a kb trying to replace a bad switch and doing a lazy job desoldering, destroying a pad, and having a hard time finding a suitable trace to try and run a wire to). Sounds like serviceability is something they are rectifying in a new iteration that should be getting released sometime this year. I'll be picking up one of the new ones when they are available. On balance, has been the best overall KB experience I've had.


I use the third-gen butterfly keyboard on a MacBook Pro.

I hate nearly everything about it. The Touchbar remains an absolute gimmick. I thought I'd get used to the key travel, but nope. Something about the keys being super low makes me typo way more often than on any other keyboard I've ever used. The up/down arrow keys being half-height makes them harder to touch type and serves no purpose other than making it look somewhat more symmetrical.

And it's just straight-up missing the escape key, which seems like just an additional insult–it has a key on the other side of the keyboard, for Touch ID, so that makes it less symmetrical (they finally fixed that in the newest 16", which doesn't do me any good).

Touch ID is nice, if weirdly slow, when it works.


I am using 2 keyboards heavily: Kinesis Advantage 2 and Keyboardio Model 01.

  KA2: 
  + Keywells and ergonomics
  + Pads and palm rests are very comfortable
  + Ortolinear
  + Thumb cluster is very good
  - The general feeling and sound of a plastic bucket
  - Only available with Cherry-Switches
  - The firmware is bad and very limited

  Model01: 
  + Wood finish and ergonomics
  + Sculptured keycaps
  + Split and ortholinear
  + Thumb cluster and palm button(!)
  + Firmware is very easy to use (Kaleidoscope)
  + Switches are very comfortable (Matias QuetClick)
  - Switches will fill sooner than later since they have reliability issues.
What I hate about both of them is the price tag.


I use a Planck(https://olkb.com/collections/planck purchased from Drop), an ortholinear / 40%.

It took me about 2 months to get up to speed with muscle memory. Something I hated during that period of time and it has been a rough 6 months or so now, I am loving it(perhaps I spent the money. At times I have to switch to the Macbook's keyboard, not much issue adjusting back and it would seem I typo more on a regular keyboard now compared when on ortholinear.

It doesn't take up much space on the desk a plus for me, however, my only wish is that it has wireless.


I have the Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 5050. https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-ww/products/keyboar...

I love that it's wireless. I love that the mouse has 4 buttons. And the keyboard itself just feels good to type on -- the keys have the perfect amount of resistance and mechanical feel without over doing it (in my opinion). I hate that if you break the dongle, there's no way to replace the dongle or re-pair.


I have a Das Keyboard Model S Professional with MX Brown switches. I like it fine - it's solid, and works fine. Not too hard to pull the keycaps and clean it. I like the built-in USB slot, though really it's just a passthrough.

The MX Browns are still pretty loud and "clacky" for use when on a call or video conference. If I make and effort to type softly I can get away with it, but full speed typing is pretty loud.

TBH I'm not that much of a keyboard nut though. For me personally the experience doesn't justify the price, though this keyboard may last long enough that the amortized cost makes it worthwhile.


I love my Brand New Model F keyboard. People praise the solid construction, durability, and repairability, which is awesome, but I mostly care about two factors: (a) the feeling of the keys, which is similar to the Model M but lighter, and even important, (b) full programmability using QMK.

I could use VIA or the QMK web configurator, but none of them are comparable to the flexibility of programming the keyboard locally using C Language. I can program layers for games, video editing and every emoji under the sun. I even have modes for Windows, OSX and Linux. However, my major use case is occasionally typing international characters without switching my keyboard layout. The major problem is that the English-International keyboard layout destroys the flow of a programmer when entering the single and double quotes used in strings. This was driving me nuts, specially when remotely working on other's people computers (got used to always type space after quote). The other reason is that I use mainly one keyboard, but connect it to several computers/OSes. Some of them, like the main work computer is pretty locked down. So it is much easier to have this keyboard configured how I want than customize the mapping in each computer. https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/

What I don't find ideal is the lack of F1-F12 keys. The work around is using a Function key and using the 1,2,3..= keys for that purpose. The creators of this keyboard wanted to do a reproduction of the original one. But some people would like to see an spiritual child of the Model F and a Model M. The Modem F technology in the Model M layout. Maybe somebody will take this project in the future. All patents have expired, so everything is possible.

I would like to buy another QMK programable mechanical keyboard. Ideally a 75% or 80% size, mostly for installing linear switches for gaming. Considered the QMMK Pro, but they have not delivered their QMK promise (cannot control the RGB). I also want to stay away from the chattering issues with the Drop Control. Any recommendations in the 75-80% size outside of those two is appreciated. Yeah, I'm waiting for the System 76 Keyboard release. Hopefully they behave like adults and deliver all what they promised (in contrast to Glorious).


Ducky One 2 Skyline TKL w/ MX blues

Like: Clicky feel, the frame is super solid, I like the color theme, good macro support, the TKL form-factor is great (it's easier to have the homerow centered in front of me, for less wrist strain), the keys feel nice (not slippery, even after years of use).

Dislike: Blue switches are a little too loud when on zoom calls (I probably should have gone with browns), there's no backlighting in the version I got, it does not act as a USB hub, and sometimes it makes a slight ringing noise if I hit the spacebar really hard.


Apple Magic Keyboard and Logitech K380. Love both to bits but wish they were smaller.

I am looking for a 40% Planck ortholinear with low profile keys and Bluetooth, but such a beast apparently does not exist yet.


Apple Magic Keyboard Wireless. It's small and light and has decent travel. The only setup is to remap caps lock -> ctrl so that I can use emacs-style keybindings throughout macOS.


I've actuated almost every keyswitch under the sun, I've dabbled in chorded keyboards, I've designed my own layout and keyboard circuit boards....

After so many years I've come full circle and I just use a Magic Keyboard too :)


ergodox ez. i like nearly all of it; i want another vertical row of keys on the outside of each side.


Keychron K2. It's the closest to a 'do everything well' keyboard I could get. It's wireless at home, but wired at work (usb C too). It's mechancial and feels good. It's got a switch for mac & pc layouts. It's got a good utility illumination without looking too gamer. Only thing I don't like about it is it's a bit thick/high, means you have to use a rest with it.


Perixx Periboard 507ii (that's the European version): https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07DTKF8SK

It is a little noisy, and I have problems configuring the buttons as a mouse while keeping the trackpad as a trackpad, but the finger travelling is good, and the layout feels very much like the old, renowned MS Natural keyboards.


I tried to get the 507 but it's no longer available.

They messed up the arrow key layout on the 512 - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075GZVD4T

I just want to buy an MS Natural 4000 but they stopped making them and now you can only find them for outrageous prices! Good thing I still have one at home and one at the office.


A grey cherry mx 1800

It looks professional in the work place, feels nice to type on, is compact despite having 104 keys, and has last two years without wear and tear.

It was almost $100 though and exhibits some deck flex and feels somewhat cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/CHERRY-G80-1800-Compact-Keyboard-Swit...


This one: http://www.northgate-keyboard-repair.com/ultra.jpg

But other than a lucky ebay listing, you won't easily find one for sale.

Like: proper mechanical key-switches with proper travel for touch typing.

Dislike: nothing (which should be evident given that the one I'm presently typing on was purchased sometime about Oct-Nov of 1991).


Do you really use the numeric keypad? I have an impression, probably wrong one, that they are only used by accountants and take too much space on the table.


I'm not the guy you're responding to but I use the very same keyboard. I don't use the keypad a lot, but when I'm typing a bunch of numbers I do.

As far as I'm concerned it has yet to be matched, let alone beat. These days nobody puts the function keys on the left--I can reliably touch-type function keys on the left, I can't reliably touch-type function keys on top.

Also, the ability to switch around ctrl/alt/caps-lock is very nice. I might use caps lock once a year, putting it down by the space bar doesn't matter. Ctrl and Alt I use a lot, they're much easier to touch-type in the shifted positions.

Please, somebody, reincarnate the king!!


Ah, I forgot the ability to, in the keyboard itself, swap the left control and caps lock key by flipping a DIP switch.

I set mine that way back in 1991 when I first bought it, and it has remained that way since.

And Northgate supplied a key puller, and two alternate keycaps, so that when one flipped the DIP switch, one could also swap the keycaps so they were actually properly labeled for their function.


If I'm entering a lot of numbers, yes.

If I'm just typing in a few digits (say the number code for an address) not so much.


I use a Tokyo60. It's mechanical, and has hotswap sockets and I can replace the keycaps and switches whenever. I like that it comes in HHKB layout, and that it uses QMK firmware where I can modify just about anything, including macros which to make my life easier. No need for key-rebinding software or any of that jazz. It's all right there on the keyboard itself.


I've tried scores of keyboards for programming. From original IBM PC keyboards to fancy Cherry-keyed custom jobs to ergo split keyboards.

My favorite for programming is the humble Logitech K750 solar keyboard. Everything about it is early perfect for my large, clumsy hands. Silent, low effort and (to me) the perfect keyfeel.

Otherwise, my favorite key switch is the Kaihl (sp?) Box White


Kinesis Freestyle Edge. I got it about half a year ago and it's been really nice. No complaints, and the key remapping is super nice. Obvious caps<>ctrl but also switching backspace with \ is nice (that makes it more like a Happy Hacking Keyboard which i also like for traveling but isn't as effortlessly easy on the hands as the Kinesis)


Nightfox, came as a kit. Love the keycaps, mx clear switches, layout is great except for the tilde in the top right. It was pricey, soft screws that got stripped while I was assembling it.

https://kono.store/products/nightfox-mechanical-keyboard


I am using a HHKB Pro Hybrid as a daily driver at work and a Realforce 104-u at home.

There is no such thing as the perfect keyboard, but HHKB Pro layout is something that stood its test of time (~10 years). And I don't see it getting replaced.

The Realforce may get benched, because I'm getting more used to wireless keyboards. So far it hasn't happened yet.


TypeMatrix 2030 with Dvorak layout (for the past 10+ years or so).

I really really like the alignment of the keys and the transparent skin on top of the complete keyboard making typing smooth, reducing noise and protecting it from dirty.

I like it so much that I bought a second one with a second skin as a backup in case of something happening to the first one.


Mine is my own design[1]. What I like is, it's programmable and cheap compared to other keyboards in its class. After found out about qmk, I am content with under 40 keys keyboard.

[1] https://github.com/ibnuda/name-unneeded


Tex Shinobi.

Like: perfect IBM trackpoint. DSA keycaps. Great layout (not wide, but all the necessary keys). Palm rest.

Dislike: took 3 months to deliver.


That's my dream keyboard and I didn't even know it existed!

Is the trackpoint REALLY a real IBM\Lenovo part?

I've tried Dell 'trackpoints' and something about the response curve is weird so I've always stuck with Lenovo Thinkpads.


HP Wireless Elite V2. I have one for home, one for work, and I've been using it for about a decade. Best keyboard I've ever owned. It's a scissor-switch keyboard like the Thinkpad keyboard or old Mac wireless keyboards. It's satisfyingly clicky with ultra-low travel and keyboard keys.


It's soft

https://www.nizkeyboard.com/products/plum-mini-84-pro-keys-3...


its Gergo with Cherry red and XDA keycaps.

It is almost as if I designed it myself to fix well known problems like overloaded little fingers, navigation keys too far from home row etc.

However it looks like it was too many changes at time. Cherry red is good for typing text, however not that good for modifier keys. Ortholinear takes time to get used to. Now I have 5! modifiers and it seems like it is too much - it is not that easy to get used to.

Before buying Gergo I swapped Ctrl and Alt and the change went surprisingly smooth and were very rewarding - Crtl shortcuts are a lot easier now - I felt like I was ready for more radical changes, which I thought would be more rewarding, but it turned out I was not (


Over the years I've become a Topre snob. My two daily drivers are a Leopold FC660 and a RealForce 87U.

Advantage: Feel and sound the best out of all of my keyboards (including an M1 and a Unicomp).

Disadvantage: No backlighting - bit painful to use at night sometimes.


I have a Logitech K860 that I really like. Wireless pairs to my Windows, Mac and Linux machines and I can just hit a button and switch between them. Has a good feel and it's nice and quiet.


Ergodox EZ Likes: easy customization of layout, dead keys, etc with firmware, construction, choice of keyswitches. Dislikes: Thumb cluster small buttons which I never use.


I use two Das Keyboard 4 Professional keyboards, one Mac/MX Brown and one Win/MX Blue. They're pretty much perfect and I love the media controls.


I’ll be the only one to say this, but I love the $6 keyboards you get at any computer store. The large backslash key and perfect key pressure is what I like.


Kinesis Freestyle.

Pro: split keyboard, stops me from pulling my back in and hurting. Keyboard snob friend with multiple keyboards gave it to me.

Con: membrane feeling keys.

Strongly recommend split keyboards.


Kinesis Advantage 2.

I love its ergonomics & aesthetics. I hate that I have to clip my nails more frequently in order to prevent my fingers from scraping the keys.


Quiet modern keyboard with those weird spaced out keys.


An XD75 (6) with the default layout (with the arrow keys in the center) with Zealios (8) on normal keys and blue clones (Outemu I think) on modifiers and GMK dampners (1) with relegendable keycaps from Xkeys (11).

I like:

- Ortholinear layout

- QMK is an option (it is not by default)

- split layout with navigation keys in the center results in a more comfortable posture

- heavy aluminium case (7)

- solderless replaceable switches

- the idea of relegendable keycaps

- flat key profile

- detachable cable

- small size (length). It is the size of a 60% but it has all the keys of a 75% because there are no big keys

- the shape of the keys sortof like lenovo keys

What I dislike:

- keycaps need to be glued or else they come apart

- keycaps are made of bad plastic (it's like it gets coroded by sweat)

- the combination of this keyboard and these kaycaps (or maybe just because of the keycaps) means the space between keys is too small to reliably feel it.

- mini-USB connector

What I want to explore:

- a true split keyboard like the Nyquist (9) or Viterbi (10) or the Let's Split so I can place an Apple Magic Trackped in the center, between the two halves, and use it with both hands

- XDA and DSA keycaps

- slim key switches like Kailh Choc

- QMK with Bluetooth

- good relegendable keycaps (that don't suck)

- Microsoft Adaptive Keyboard (2) / ArtLebedev Optimus Popularis (3)

- true dampened blue switches. I love tactile (you feel a bump when it actuates) clicky (you hear a click when it actuates) silent (bottoming out and topping out are dampened soft and silent) switches

I also own the following:

- TeamWolf Void Ray - probably the first comercial RGB backlit keyboard with solderless replaceable switches (4)

- Input-Club K-Type - the original one (in partnership with MassDrop) with Halo switches. The original stabilizers are atrocious and I am not impressed by the Halo switches (5)

- Logitech DiNovo Edge - Arguably the most beautiful keyboard

(1) https://uniqey.net/en/accessories/18/qmx-clips-plate-mount-1....

(2) https://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Microsofts-Adaptive-Keyboard...

(3) https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/popularis/

(4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobT3j9gjaM

(5) https://input.club/k-type/

(6) https://kprepublic.com/products/xd75re-xd75am-xd75-xiudi-60-...

(7) https://kprepublic.com/products/anodized-aluminium-case-for-...

(8) https://zealpc.net/products/zealio

(9) https://keeb.io/products/nyquist-keyboard

(10) https://keeb.io/products/viterbi-keyboard-pcbs-5x7-70-split-...

(11) https://xkeys.com/transparentsinglekeys.html


IBM KU-0225... I like the layout, not much that I don't like... did a quick search and the IBM KU-0225 on Amazon doesn't look like mine ebay looks more like it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/274708495181




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