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Moxie's argument can be found in its essay "the ecosystem is moving"[1], which is highly fallacious. Moxie's Signal is about control and building for himself the same kind of monopoly as others currently enjoy. You can find evidence of that through the libresignal issue tracker on GitHub where he rationalizes barring access to 3rd party clients or servers[2].

He sees federation as the technically superior approach (and as beneficial for privacy and security), but also as a threat to himself, which makes the point that he doesn't have your best interests at heart.

[1]: https://gultsch.de/objection.html

[2]: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco...




Your link [1] is actually the answer to/against moxie by Daniel Gultsch. Please be fair and first give the original article so people can make up their own mind:

https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/

There is also a live talk by Moxie at 36C3: https://app.media.ccc.de/v/36c3-11086-the_ecosystem_is_movin...


> Your link [1] is actually the answer to/against moxie by Daniel Gultsch.

True, I meant to move the reference at the end of the sentence rather than linking the two as initially planned, ended-up doing half of that.

> There is also a live talk by Moxie at 36C3

IIRC, that's the one he didn't like to be ridiculed over and asked the organizers to take down.


> that's the one he didn't like to be ridiculed over and asked the organizers to take down.

This is repeated every single time, when the reality is that Moxie asked the organizers _in advance_ not to record the talk[0]:

> I just prefer to present something as part of a conversation that’s happening in a place, rather than a webinar that I’m broadcasting forever to the world. I have less faith in the internet as a place where a conversation can happen, and the timelessness of it decontextualizes.

[0]: https://twitter.com/moxie/status/1211427007596154881




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