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"Who uses it?"
"Who *really* needs it?"
"What problem does this solve?"
"Does that problem *really* need to be solved?"
"What is the worst problem in your life?"
"In any given day, how many people use it? Do they return?"
"What do you do for them once they get to your site?"
"Why do they need you? What's special about you?"
"Beat a chicken and egg problem with a tiny subset of the market that's small but *driven*."
"No, who *needs* it?"))
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This may seem random, but I'm also in highschool - a junior, actually. Where (if you did) did you apply to college? I'm trying to figure out where I should look for / what I should be looking for, and it's confusing. I'm interested in programming/cs/engineering
That's a very valid question, and now that I've made my decision, I keep thinking, "Maybe I should've applied to MIT...maybe I should've applied to Berkeley...my college guidance counselor used to work in CMU admissions, and told me that I would certainly get in--maybe I should've applied there...." But I didn't, here's what happened:
I made the following realizations:
1. People go to college to learn a lot more than Computer Science (my major).
2. As such, I want a college with a great community/environment (and even good gened classes), not just a great CS program.
3. There's something of a rift between academic CS and real-world programming. I'm not saying CS is worthless, but effective programmers need a lot more than an undergrad CS degree.
3.5. Also, if I do want to learn more CS, I can always try to go to MIT/Berkeley/CMU for grad school.
4. With sites like HN, Stack Overflow, and everything that's Googleable--and with decent laptops easily obtainable--it's really easy to teach yourself a lot of programming. I took CS in high school, but know a LOT more than what was taught. Why? Doing stuff on my own time. I see no reason why this can't continue in college.
5. There's many summer opportunities available--internships with Google (or many other places), research with one of my professors (Him, when I was a HS junior: "Additionally, we hope to start summer student research programs in a year or two--the funding...is already there. I in particular would love to have a student enthusiastic about [functional programming] as a researcher."), or even just having 8-16 hours a day to hack on my own projects.
I'm a Christian, so #2 strongly suggested that I should go to a Christian college. I cockily applied to only one school--Wheaton College, IL--and got in EA. It's not a bad school academically (the Princeton Review called it "The Harvard of all Christian schools" (which might be an exaggeration) (PS: Wheaton people jokingly call Harvard "The Wheaton of post-modern secular humanism")), and I really like everything about it besides the academics. Oh, and extra bonuses:
1. I sat in on several CS classes, and a) The classes are small, and the students seem to have excellent relationships with each other and the professor. b) They just got a spanking new science building, which is very very nice.
2. I took a bunch of AP tests, and did very well on them, and as such will almost certainly come in with sophomore standing. If I get a crazy startup going, I can leave college after three years :)
3. My parents told me that I could go wherever I wanted and they'd figure out some way to pay for it (somehow...). Wheaton not only gave me the "Presidential Scholarship" (given to students who make a certain academic cut), but gave me a nice extra scholarship because of my National Merit Finalist standing. This is in addition to need-based aid, I think. Not a full ride, but still "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick", as my dad would say.
So YMMV, but this is what I'm up to. Good luck!
Edit: I say this not to show off or anything, but to give let you know where I stand academically: 35 ACT, SAT 800 Math, 740 Reading, 630 Writing (oops...), 220 PSAT (I took all those tests only once), 4 on AP Euro sophomore year, 5 on all five APs last year, almost certainly a 5 on three this year, and a 4 or 5 on the two AP Physics C tests. And ~3.54 unweighted GPA at a prep school.
I just graduated, and am also going into Computer Science. I just pulled up a list of top CS schools and started researching from there. I ended up applying to MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, U of Illinois UC, U of Michigan, and a few others. I only got into U of Illinois UC, but I'm happy with that and am excited for next year.
My advice: Apply to where you really want to go. The money is something that you can work out if you try hard enough. don't be afraid to reach for the top tier of schools, but don't leave yourself with no fallbacks.
I know you're not looking for advice here, but just so it's out there: consider a degree that's not C.S. You'll always be a hacker and you'll enjoy it a lot more (and be better at it, in some ways) if you craft a formal education around whatever classes seem most interesting. My favorite coders all have music or linguistics backgrounds.
Just my $0.02. Congrats on graduating and good luck!
I really suck at music, languages I am okay at, but programming is my passion, it is what I went to school for, and honestly I would suggest it to anyone that is interested in it. Sure I didn't get much out of school because I was so far ahead of everyone else, but I had teachers that challenged me and helped me figure out what I wanted to do and that is what I am doing.
Don't blindly follow this guys advice, definitely mull it over, but for me personally it would not have been a good decision.
paul: What's your idea. Hit me.
me: its like facebook but for dogs
paul: And the big hits often look risky at first.Like Facebook
me: ya...i know
paul: Adults know this
me: but i need dogs to know about this
paul: On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog