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[dupe] Pence and Lawmakers Evacuate as Protesters Storm Capitol, Halting Count of Votes (nytimes.com)
62 points by fortran77 on Jan 6, 2021 | hide | past | favorite | 11 comments



Why do these threads get getting flagged, but other protest threads from 2020 were not flagged at all? This is historic.


Tons of such threads were flagged. Most were both heavily upvoted and heavily flagged, in some cases upvotes won out, in some cases flags won out, and in a few cases flags won out but moderators overrode the flags. This is the normal tug-of-war with divisive submissions on HN—where "divisive" has multiple values: people are divided politically, but also about what's on topic for the site.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...


Additional thread with many comments (since flagged) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25661474


@fortran77: I’m trying to understand why you are submitting multiple stories on the same event, some after others are flagged. Can you clarify or elaborate, please?


He is submitting more because they keep getting flagged.

There is a coup going on right now. How do you not understand what is happening?


I understand the event. I’m trying to better understand the person.


This sort of thing can generally be described as a coup.

It's insane that the political system gives the losing side ~2 months to soapbox, obstruct, and use force to contest the results of an election. In nearly every democracy, power turns over very next day, or at worst, within the week, in order to avoid this kind of crisis.


> It's insane that the political system gives the losing side ~2 months ... In nearly every democracy, power turns over very next day, or at worst, within the week

You have to keep in mind the genesis of that two months time-frame.

This was written into the constitution circa the 1790 timeframe (rough estimate, I'm not trying to nail down an exact date). That is 230 years ago (+- some error factor).

The fastest method of communication available 230 years ago was a rider and multiple, fast, horses arranged in a sort of "relay race" configuration to transport that rider, and their communications data, from one part of the country to another.

There was simply no means available, 230 years ago, to "turn over power" within a day or a week, because it could easily have taken far more than a week just to transport the results of distant states votes to the central point of counting (originally this would have been Philadelphia, then it became Washington DC when the federal govt. moved into DC).

The "2 months" is an artifact of a different time, with significantly slower means of communication than we enjoy today, 230 years or so later. Unfortunately, the "2 months" time has also not been updated as the years passed, and communications speed improved considerably from the horse and rider days of yesteryear.


It's been updated. The inauguration was in March until 1937.


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What's going on is the site functioning the way it always does. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25662218 and then please stop? You've posted five times calling this a "coup"—that's way overdoing things, and at a minimum we rate limit such accounts. The principle of discussion here should be reflection, not reflexive overreaction.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...


It's not a coup attempt yet. It's a coup attempt if Trump tries to exploit it, as by declaring martial law.




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