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263 points by adithyaba 63 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 64 comments



Open Source Stash seems to be opinionated (for lack of a better word) and there doesn't seem to be a way to submit projects to it in the public (like a pull-request for example where a discussion can be had) but only privately to the maintainer (ironic, for a webpage maintaining a collection of OSS software)? Also, I need to allow countless third-party services (uMatrix puts the count at 51) to even make the website work. I wish that weren't the case.

This other website I have been using is likely more comprehensive, no-gimmicks, and fast: https://awesomeopensource.com/

Also see: https://github.com/ripienaar/free-for-dev (freetiers)


"Also, I need to allow countless third-party services (uMatrix puts the at 51) to even make the website work."

This "website" is nothing more than a spreadsheet transformed into a dumpster fire of gratuitous Javascript and third party requests with https://spreadsimple.com.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CwEoXiapYtYiU5TvYrVs...

For the raw XML,

https://doc-10-7k-sheets.googleusercontent.com/export/l5l039...

Need to remove HTTP headers and chunking, then unzip.


HTML instead of PDF:

   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CwEoXiapYtYiU5TvYrVsDmVN7P0l6i-WENjbWh3o9qU/edit



Maybe it's just me but this points to a PDF export. The /edit suffix is getting changed to /export?format=pdf. The "non-clickable" link points to /edit which gives me an HTML version.


I just clicked it in Chrome and Mobile Safari and they both bring me to a regular Google Sheets web page. I tried in incognito mode too and it was the same.

What browser are you using?


Links


And a browser extension that suggests open-source alternatives based on the current page's URL: https://github.com/nileshtrivedi/better

It also allows you to submit new recommendations via the extension itself which submits a pull request to its GitHub project.

What's interesting is that: the extension lets you subscribe to multiple sources for recommendations (much like adblocking filters). This means that curation of alternatives can be done by people YOU trust and could incorporate criteria other than license: Ethical, Low-priced, Locally produced, Sustainable etc.


Another list https://alternativeshub.gitlab.io/ with the rankings. Found Photopea here. Seems to be based on the awesome list too.


Note that while Photopea is free to use, it is neither open source, nor source available. It’s free to use (free as in beer) proprietary software.

Not to say Photopea isn’t fantastic (it is!), but in the context of this thread (open source software) it may not be suitable for many.


In the about page, it says that the curator doesn't have any coding experience and has been checking out the no code movement.

I think that explains why this website isn't open source itself.


> Also, I need to allow countless third-party services (uMatrix puts the count at 51) to even make the website work.

Here I am with Firefox Focus staring at an almost blank page (except for three page links) because of content and tracker blockers. I usually don’t even bother to explore further in such cases.


Since we're sharing links, here's another good resource:

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted


Here is one for CLI utilties. https://github.com/agarrharr/awesome-cli-apps


they list brave, but not firefox! I take offense to that! :)


Ah the good old my browser is better than yours trope


I saw n8n in the list, but it is not really open source [0]. Even on the Github repo they don't advertise themselves as Open Source, but rather "Free and open fair-code" [1]

[0] - https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n/blob/181ba3c/packages/cli/LICE...

[1] - https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n


Ironically, the homepage pulls the list of featured productions by querying a Google Docs spreadsheet using spreadsimple.com, neither of which are open source.


Also kind of ironic to show a big picture of an iPhone prominently on the frontpage. You can't even install your own software on it without rooting it or getting a devkit.

Perhaps showing a pinephone or a Librem 5 would be more fitting.


Also, the screen behind it features MacOS. Which, needless to say, is also hostile to free software.


It is not, though? That makes no sense.


As pointed before, the apple app store is incompatible with GPL. With the notarization system it makes it necessary for developers to at the very least use apple's proprietary toolkit to release their software. The FSF has a big list, I find some of the items a bit exaggerated, but most are legitimate points: https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.en.html

Anyway, user freedom is the main point of free software and, supposedly, of the original article. In that sense, it's hard to argue that Apple ranks any higher than even MS.


You do not need to use the App Store, you can just distribute software yourself.

The app store being incompatible with the GPL is really the choice of the writers of the GPL and those who use it as their license. Other open source licenses are not incompatible with it, it is just the GPL that chose to be.


You merely pointed that it's technically possible to write free software for macs, which I never disputed. My point that macs (and apple) are a hostile environment for free software still stands. By the way, GPL is not a fringe license no one cares about as you kind of hint at, but it is one of the largest licenses out there and a lot of people like its terms.

Moreover, you didn't even address the point that Apple makes it increasingly difficult (and sometimes even impossible) to distribute code for their platform without the use of their proprietary SDK. That, of course, is an artificial requirement by Apple, yet again signiling that they are not friendly towards free softwre.

Note that, a hostile environment for free software does not mean that there is no free software or that free software is impossible. If that was the case, I would've used that wording. It's hostile because it makes it harder for free software to exist and because it does not integrate/cooperate well with free software.


Not to mention GPL licensed software are incompatible with the terms of the AppStore: http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-...


Not only that, but also a Mac, both of them featuring only propietary software. The idea is great, the design should be redone IMO.


What about a Mac "features only proprietary software"?


And uses Google Analytics while having multiple open source analytics tools listed.


alternativeto.net has a better database and a better interface, imo. You search for the software you want an alternative to, then choose your platform and license, and get a list of alternatives sorted by popularity. For instance, look up Altium (electronic schematic/PCB CAD package), and it shows results like KiCAD (open source, free), Eagle (very proprietary), LibrePCB (new open source project), Schematics.com (web-based). It even has entries for program features and description, so you can see what makes a program or service an alternative.


Feedback:

1. Don't make people scroll one-page to actually see the software list/cards

2. My first reaction is to find the search text box which is not easy to locate. Make it prominent, front and in centre.


> 1. Don't make people scroll one-page to actually see the software list/cards

Until I've read this comment I didn't even realise there was a scrollbar and dismissed the page as just another fancy looking landing page. /shrug


Why is there pretty much no active participant in the open source software for lawyers, accountants? And no. Kanban does not count. Is the monopoly of stuff like Clio and others so much that noone is attempting open source alternatives? Cliniccases which has seen no development in years seems to be only one.

When you can have accounting packages and ERP software for million dollar orgs running on Foss software like erpnext, akaunting? Its not like lawyers are a niche market in the world.

The interesting thing is, I can find dozens of "dental practice" software and packages on sourceforge and github but none about lawyers.

Dont open source advocates/lawyers need open source tools? Anyone from the EFF legal team here? What do you guys use in house ?

Edit: I would be glad to assist in development by giving time and inputs.


I used to be a consultant, a lot of our clients were lawyers.

We talked a lot about gaps in the market, but when talking to our clients, they really were not interested in anything that didn't come from a largish vendor. Compliance, liability and the belief that somehow the people writing it should also have passed the bar were frequently mentioned.

Those folks will never run something they pulled off Github.


if https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenEMR can be hipaa compliant, so can other softwares be. i don't think being on github is some sort of "childish" thing to say.

you said your clients were lawyers. my question, how "big" were your clients? were they shoe string budgeted legal clinics, one man pratices or medium/large multi corps?

compliance and liability is talked about stuff which is usually customer facing, has some cloud version that might be stealing data and all that. There is little problems in running offline self hosted solutions that only reside in the local network and "for your eyes only" end to end.


“IANAL” and all, My take is that legal work is, and has been, a high status domain of knowledge work requiring skill, effort and hard work to aquire. What cannot be solved with Excel&friends, may not be suited for such tools (or so they argue, to safeguard their knowledge).

A highly competitive market keep firms from collaborating on common [open source] goals and processes. Firms may have value systems far apart in their mission guiding their own work wich creates a social obstacle. A highly competitive (read: expensive) domain as it can be - professional signaling towards clients and competitor includes status and quality services; in which open source may be irrelevant at best, and dedicated person-to-person conduct of business is one of the best ways to deliver trust and quality. Maybe as a lawyer, you are better off using such de-facto standards as Clio.

I believe our most recent ML & AI have managed to breath some air into the historically tricky task of computationally work legalese in a practic way. A firm would probably keep a successful solution to themselves.

My hypotethical 5¢. /j


billion dollar companies are built on providing service to a foss project that has been battle tested to work. its not like that is too far fetched.

what you are saying is network effect is helping companies not allowing a foss competitor because that would cut into their bottom line?

so, i am offering my inputs. all the legal clinics around the world who need software for their day to day management who currently rely on google sheets and excel would love a foss alternative. self hosted would work for them.

the stuff used in house is probably not supposed to be known to your customers/competitors so network effect is out.

remember. tools dont need safeguarding. the knowledge inside does.



> Privacy-focused

"We're sorry but viewer-app doesn't work properly without JavaScript enabled. Please enable it to continue."


Why not Firefox at the browser section?



yup, you beat me to it


I just submitted the Algolia OSS alternative I’m working on to the list: https://github.com/typesense/typesense

I’ll report back on how much traffic this brings.

So far awesomeopensource.com has brought the most traffic among all the directories mentioned in this thread.


I've recently tried 10 or so schematic capture programs from Ubuntu repository and my experience was very bad. Designing single transistor amplifier was almost impossible in most of them. Ridiculous ui, crashes, simple things like changing resistor value and seeing change required 10s of clicks. I ended up designing scheme in caneda, then I made a screenshot and exported netlist. Then I made simple app in lazarus where I put image in the window and added panels atop of each element, when I scrolled mouse above panel it changed that value in netlist by 1% and instantly run netlist in spice and rendered transient chart. No clicking, no switching modes, no dialogs. In hour or so I had amplifier tuned. Doing this in any of those existing programs would take me a month.


Why does this site require JS to display content at all?


Modern webpages don't load unless they have at least 5 years access to your medical records. This page is the attempt of a non-coder, who believes that Open Source is an ethical (and privacy-aware) choice, to share resources with other people. As a non-coder, they are only exposed to the trash tools that we as programmers give them now, hence the page is as it is, no worse than the average restaurant's site. Hopefully it is successful and eventually the author gets help in simplifying the code.

Also hopefully, over time, they gain a preference for Free Software since they seem to prefer Open Source for ethical reasons. It's a point of pride for Open Source that it asks no ethical questions; only because of that it conforms to the ethical stance of Free Software because it's willing to conform to the ethical stance of any distributor.


As a 40 y/o guy it makes me sad how people are rediscovering server side rendering (see the recent "HTML over the wire" post here on HN) but I guess it is what it is.

> Modern webpages don't load unless they have at least 5 years access to your medical records.

Made me laugh, thanks.


It's similar to: https://opensource.builders/


I don’t see any alternatives to social networks like Facebook / LinkedIn here, the same way that Wordpress is an alternative to medium.com

How do we submit here our open source platform https://github.com/Qbix/Platform


Diaspora and Mastodon (among others) are there fwiw.


Those are kind of like basic twitter clones


We used to use Freshmeat.net for this for a really long time, Slashdot moved it over to Sourceforge but then it died in 2014. http://freshmeat.sourceforge.net/


It’s spirit lives on in https://freshcode.club

The RSS feed doesn’t validate so you’d want to browse it with a browser, rather than track it with a feed reader.


Neat! I added the top level RSS [1] to The Old Reader [2] and it pulled up just fine (validation), the title shows up as "xfer" by default but otherwise works fine for this reader.

[1] http://freshcode.club/projects.rss

[2] https://theoldreader.com


https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffre... shows there are a few errors.

NewsBlur doesn't complain that anything is wrong, but it will skip specific items that do not validate - so it all looks dandy, but it misses updates.


This website recommends Brave, how does that compare to using something like ungoogled-chromium? IIRC Brave has extra activity regarding its use of cryptocurrency integrated with browsing.


Brave allows you to sell your time/attention by showing you ads and giving you money for it. You can earn funds in their cryptocoin. Chromium, of course, does not have ads.


It would be useful if it would point out guides links for the self hosting software


opensource stash should list if there are packaged versions of the software. may it be flatpak/snap/deb/rpm/appimage/docker.


Nope. Most alternatives like services miss on a very important point. Alternatives do not have the same features and there should be a thorough comparison for end users not to waste their time.


Cool idea, but no alternative site I've seen has told me which competitor to X has dark mode and markdown.


Disclaimer: I'm maintainer of Wekan.

Wekan https://wekan.github.io has:

- Dark Theme at => Board Settings => Color => Dark. Although, only for per board, not as Global theme yet.

- Markdown and GitHub emojis https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/Emoji

About comparisons:

- Yes, comparisons are very time consuming to make. Most comparisons at Internet are out of date, usually new features are added to software all the time. I also have not found up-to-date comparisons site. Comparisons pages can also get very long, some kind of summary would be nice, if possible. I should sometime try to update this out-of-date comparisons page https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/Wekan-vs-Trello-vs-Resty... , after creating that there has been many changes.

- For example, Wekan has some same features that Trello also has. Wekan has some features Trello does not have, like Open Source, self-hosting, Swimlanes, etc. Trello has some features Wekan does not have, like burndown charts.


It seems saving HN comment above removed unicode, like at above: Dark Theme at (Hamburger icon) => (Settings Icon) Board Settings => Color => Dark.


Where's your site which has all that?


None right now.




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