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I believe the rules say if you can buy it online, you have to be able to buy in in-app.

I love my Apple products, but this particular rule is making me reconsider how committed I plan on staying.

I love my iPad too - but after playing with the new 10.1" Galaxy Tab for a few hours (thank you, Google IO), I think I'd now recommend an Android tablet over an Apple one (for just the kind of BS App Store policies being enforced here).

pretty sure you're wrong on this

only needs to be available as an in app purchase if the app itself has a way of enabling you to purchase same content from outside the app (for example, a "subscribe now" button that links directly to a purchase page in Safari). I'm not sure where just a "you can subscribe from our website", sans link, would fall, but I'd hope that would be ok.

If it's available for purchase/download elsewhere it also needs to be available in-app for the 30% fee. It can't be priced higher in-app. That is the dilemma for the retailers.

Here are the choices: 1) Pull out of IOS completely 2) Lose money on all in-app purchases and hope that you make enough in direct sales to stay in business 3) Raise prices everywhere so the 30% fee doesn't hurt so much

Option #2 is just not realistic. It could be a very tough call between #1 and #3. The IOS store probably has enough critical mass that a business could lose substantial sales by ignoring it. The bigger risk is allowing an opening for a new entrant to come in, build a business in an untapped market and eventually be a tough competitor. Option #3 basically screws all your customers- even if they've never even heard of the IOS stores- so Apple can line their pockets.

It's a really crummy policy. It's either going to hurt businesses, who stand to lose sales or even go under, or it's going to hurt customers who will have to pay higher prices as a result.

I think they have more choices:

(4) negotiate a deal where they get more then 30%.

(5) negotiate to remove DRM and operate as a Web App.

(6) change business models to subscription.

(7) license the app part of the business model to another company not involved with your store. That company can then pursue anti-trust claims against Apple if disallowed since they have no ability to offer the items for sale.

(8) add more value with your product i.e. get a better business model then "I'm gonna get rich being an additional middleman of ebooks"

No, I believe this is only true if you provide a link from within your app. For example, as long as Amazon's Kindle app doesn't have a link to the Amazon Kindle bookstore, they don't have to support in-app purchase (and hence don't have to give Apple a cut).

The App Store Review Guidelines [1] state pretty clearly:

11.13 Apps can read or play approved content (magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video) that is sold outside of the app, for which Apple will not receive any portion of the revenues, provided that the same content is also offered in the app using IAP at the same price or less than it is offered outside the app. This applies to both purchased content and subscriptions.

11.14 Apps that link to external mechanisms for purchasing content to be used in the app, such as a “buy" button that goes to a web site to purchase a digital book, will be rejected

[1] https://developer.apple.com/appstore/resources/approval/guid...

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