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That's interesting about the progressive taxation. My quick look at income tax rates in the US is that there is a lot of progressiveness in the income ranges of the top 5% rather than through the income levels that the bell curve of Americans live in. I am not an expert or spent anytime I must say so I'm not arguing just my first look.

What income range do you define as middle class? And What's lower class in the US income wise?

Also for a bit of context what government services do people receive welfare for in the US? What are the big sercices that are driving those net negative tax payments?




One difference from here than other developed countries is that America has a lot of rich people. Not just super rich that you hear about on the news, but tons of millionaires. The software salaries at FAANG are true, but basically every industry has a cream at the top that makes absurd money compared to what they would make in other countries. Doctors, dentists, lawyers, military contractors, salesmen, stock traders, fast food franchisees - every state in the US has a sizable pool of millionaires. And while the tax rates that someone making $800k salary vs. $80k salary aren’t hugely different, 37% of $800k is a hell of a lot more total than 30% of $80k. And that’s where the bulk of the taxes are made - not from the poor, or the middle class, or even the super rich that often game everything, but the upper middle class / “normal” rich.


Thank you I appreciate the comment back and with facts and figures and back to your original point it is totally not possible to bring the things that American progressives want without lifting taxes - there are not just enough of the 'rockstars' you mention above to pay for those services even if they paid huge percentages of tax which wouldn't be ideal for the regressiveness of doing so.

It's only going to be done with all tax payers increasing their contribution (or maybe all but the lowest).




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