So then if you can see anyone's screen, or any clear photo of it, you can easily join the conference. Seems like very poor security design if that's so
The software URL format looks similar to that used by Pexip.com
Someone leaves their doors unlocked it doesn't mean you should be entering.
More importantly, how on bloody earth are defence discussions happening in a situation that can so easily be defeated.
The officials themselves are to blame for blatantly terrible security protocols.
Yea, well, it's a useful function of journalism to poke their head in open doors and say "you're doing _WHAT_ in here?!"
I slot this in alongside the time US nuclear missile officers were found asleep, with the door open waiting for takeout - simultaneously seriously disturbing and quite funny.
Add to this that the EU is corrosively fractured, nowhere near as coherent as the US. We're no match, hell (thanks to the Brits) the EU doesn't even have a Foreign Minister, and the effective veto power of even a super tiny nation doesn't make it any easier.
Everyone else who has a very similar history (even though it's painted in a better light by the media) has moved on.
I'm actually grateful that our leaders have been and still are mindful of that fact.
But, Germany did not cause two world wars.
Or the time when the hot-tempered Kaiser couldn't keep it in his pants and wanted to test his new toys with the rest of his aristocrat buddies?
You can then also argue about the context/contribution the harsh treaty of Versailles made to WW2. But to not blame principally Germany/NSDAP/Hitler for WW2 after Germany marched into Poland is pretty absurd.
Sorry, that's wrong. Eastern (Communist) Germany painted itself as an "anti-fascist state by definition", but in reality there were awful lots of Neo-Nazis active in the GDR - and after the Mauerfall Western cadres only had to move in to find faithful people. It's estimated that there were 15.000 (!) Neo-Nazis at the time. See https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/die-ddr-und-ihre-neonazis-rea... or https://www.zeit.de/2012/08/DDR-Nazis for more details.
This "the DDR was antifascist and there were no Nazis there" nonsense is a huge part of why the neo-Nazi problem in the former GDR was overlooked until 2015ff with PEGIDA and other violent far right movements appearing (for many uninitiated) "out of thin air".
To think DJT has woken up the EU from their decades long slumber is incredible.
The EU didnt bother on account of the US taxpayer footing the bill regardless thus removing their freedom of action and their seat on the table. They've gotten so feeble, no one even cares.
The US didn't just burn that money for naught, they got something from all that investment and that is that they were for all intents and purposes the leader of the world, both in "soft power" and "hard power".
The problem is that it is very hard to quantify the benefits while it's extremely easy to quantify the costs.
At least since Snowden EU leaders probably always assume that someone is listening in. NSA and GHQ had breached Belgacom (Belgian former telecoms monopoly) to listen in on the EU.
Sure word got out, but it need not reach most of the populace.
And then they publish articles in the native language of their country.
In France: https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/un-journaliste-s-introdui...
In Belgium: https://www.rtbf.be/info/medias/detail_un-journaliste-neerla...
And so on...
It will come soon a time (in fact, it's pretty much here already) where China calls the shots over us. "Obey, or no microchips for you. In fact, no manufacturing of any kind." Thoroughly depressing.
Besides, if the EU defence conference had an open URL or weak password that issue would apply regardless of Zoom, Webex, etc.
A EU security conference should use EU software, and as little foreign stuff as possible. Otherwise, it's just theater (and it currently really is just that!).
Wait. Isn't Zoom Chinese software?
> All of Zoom’s security team is based in the US
That's the point. Thinking that the US are truthful and honest allies of the EU is plain laughable.
They may not explicitly desire standing alone, but I wouldn’t bet against them deciding that’s the better option, nor would I bet against them using or threatening to use their manufacturing capability to put pressure on certain policy objectives. It’s not like other countries don’t use economic impact as a carrot/stick to achieve policy objectives.
The U.S. already does that. Why is that any better?
The difference between the US and China's government is that almost nobody likes China. The US, at least before recent political developments, tries to make sure that agreements benefit both sides.
The US is also a democracy that respects freedom of the press and human rights to a degree. China doesn't give a shit about any of that.
Right. My problem is that the U.S. already is bullying too much and nobody pushes back against them, if it takes China to do it, so be it. I wish the EU to grow a backbone, but it is unlikely to happen.
I mean you have the U.S. sanctioning MEDICINE to Iran in the middle of a global pandemic and threatening Europe with secondary sanctions if we help out.
You have the U.S. sanctioning ICC officials for wanting to investigate U.S. war crimes. You have the U.S. arguing in the open that it is free to kill its own citizens without due process.
I'd like someone to push against that, may as well be China if the EU is not up to the task, as it has repeatedly shown.
1 - https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201117/12384545723/gover...
I have yet to see recent news of them bombing other countries, kidnapping people from around the world and destabilising regions around the world.
In truth, I'd rather have neither of them bullying others but if I had to choose, I think the less violent bully is a better choice.
same in Australia
kidnapping abroad (Thailand):
killing abroad (Indonesia):
Right now, there's practically no pushback on crippling U.S. sanctions against Iran or Venezuela for example.
Probably the best response you can hope for in the moment.
>The meeting was ended due to the breach, while a Foreign Affairs Council spokesman told RTL: "Such a breach is illegal and will be reported to the authorities."
And the foreign policy chief was laughing, but I bet he was asking himself "who do I send over there to stop them" while trying to maintain the laughing face.
Does not matter as much if you discuss reconstruction of a mountain hut, matters a lot in defence, espionage or diplomacy.
However what Zoom and other conf tools could do is that they could read the password from the URL and then use `history.pushState()` DOM API to replace the URL and erase the password once the meeting is launched.
Downside would be though users wouldn't be able anymore to just copy the URL from browser's URL bar and send to other people to join.
I want to facepalm so hard right now.