I use Bluetooth audio a lot when only listening to media but try and use Bluetooth headphones while playing a MIDI instrument. For me I struggle when I try to do that.
My headphones are Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT. They support Bluetooth 5.0
I’ve been using them with a wire connection to my MPC X when doing music but a couple of days ago I used my MPC X in controller mode connected to my 2018 MacBook Air, and used Bluetooth Audio to see what that’d be like. As mentioned I found the delay to be too high. I tried to lower the sample buffer size in the MPC X software on the computer but with lower settings I got popping and clicking sounds.
Besides, the buffer size settings in the MPC software were not the main contributor to the delay AFAICT. The default setting of 512 samples, when used at 48kHz will mean 10.67 ms of delay, which according to some sources online is at about the upper limit of what you’d want when playing an instrument. And some sources say that for sounds with a steep attack (e.g. drums) you’d preferably actually have sub 6-7 ms delay.
But Bluetooth 5.0 adds a minimum of 32 ms of delay according to what I read online, and they also say that more likely it will be as much as a couple of hundred ms delay.
All I know for sure is that when I tried to play instruments through Bluetooth audio using the headphones I mentioned and the MPC X connected in controller mode to my computer with the MPC software, the delay was sufficiently high that it became difficult to play.
Whereas with a cable connection to my MPC X in standalone mode with the same headphones the delay is low enough that I personally don’t notice it, even when doing drum sounds.
> What about results? The first-generation AirPods, which use Apple’s W1 chip, measure latency of 274 ms. Second-generation AirPods, released earlier this year and powered by Apple’s newer H1 chip, drop the latency to 178 ms. And AirPods Pro, which use the same H1 chip, are even better at 144 ms.
You can get a Klipsch R51 PM for quite a bit less than the price of two HomePods. Better audio, Bluetooth, aux, optical, USB, even phono pre-amp in case you have a turntable.
So if you pick up your homepod and move it in your room - say from in the middle of the table to near a wall, it will change its sound profile (after about half a minute) to lower bass and minimize reflective frequencies from the wall. Having an omnidirectional speaker blast into the wall would not sound good without that kinda calibration, as you would get reflective sounds from the wall and too much bass.
It does further calibration like this one put in a stereo pair to make sure _both_ homepods are outputting the best sound together.
The audiophile equivalent of this is getting a good mic, hook it up to your $5k stereo, and then use the manufacturer provided software to calibrate it. Then never move anything around your room again or hang new art of throw down a rug, because if you do that you have to recalibrate again.
The homepod is really some crazy audio engineering. One of apple patents describes some of stuff that probably went into the Homepod . There is also a fun review  that was posted on the reddit audiophile back when the homepods first came out.
1 - http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=....
2 - https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7wwtqy/apple_ho...
They maintain a list of supported microphones.
You can even bake the configuration into the HifiBerry DSP once done, it doesn't need the Pi attached to apply the room correction. The included HifiBerry OS software has a setup process that makes calibrating the room with mic just as easy as the Sonos system.
I was huge into Sonos ecosystem, but recent actions with how they treated owners of earlier equipment have left me cold on it. This works forever once set, assuming you don't move the speakers. Works with any old speaker/amp combo you can output a phono/optical signal to.
its purely opinion etc, but I am just as happy with results from this system with nice pair of bookshelf speakers as I was a pair of Sonos 1s, and it will work as long as the board lasts.
I am shocked hifiberryOS hasn't found more fans, its really impressive for what it does for little money with a supported DSP. The hardest part of this is cloning an image to an SD card, rest is plug and play. You could eBay the calibration mic once done too. If you intend to move your speakers a lot this is no good of course, but my experience is people often set these things in one place in their home.
It's probably just a matter of time before pretty much every speaker can self-calibrate to some degree. Most mid-range bluetooth speakers already have a microphone and some basic DSP abilities, which is really all you need.
HifiberryOS is new to me and looks pretty nifty - I'll have to check it out.
Obviously we have to put some trust in corporations if we're not to live a purely analog existence, and so it stands to reason that we can put a little more trust in a company whose business model is selling premium hardware (and which increasingly sees privacy as a competitive advantage) than a company whose business model is selling your personal data to advertisers.
They see privacy as a marketing advantage, however they collect data as they see fit. It is also important to note, that they are indeed in the ad business and even if it is no match to their hardware business they are profit maximizing. So even if they don't sell your data now this can change and your record on that big corp will become known to whoever pays enough.
Side question: Does Google directly sell personal data to advertisers? (For Google applies what I said above anyway)
HomePods, for all their flaws, are very decent speakers in a small footprint. They blend in and are very minimalist, in my opinion, and that's important to me.
This is an understatement.
I bought one just yesterday, and was very very surprised by how small it is. It just blends in unobtrusively with the room. It's like it's not even there. A pretty good step on the route to making computers blend in with the world.
If you're a tech nerd who is OK with wires and blinking lights all over your home, this won't be important to you. But if you are someone, or live with someone, for whom the aesthetics of your home are important, this is a very important feature.
And yes, the aesthetics. It just looks good. Actively good.
I do remember the 90's. I wasn't a fan of it.
computer hardware that wasn't SGI wasn't allowed to be any color besides Beige
I used to dream about one day pounding away on SGI gear. I eventually (early/mid-2000's) got moved to an office with meteorologists that had Indigos and Octanes, and I think Irisseseses. Blue was awesome. But then they all got replaced by generic Dell machines. Ick.
I remember back before all computers looked the same. Back when keyboards were vastly different between models, and would have blue or red or brown or very rarely green keys. Standardization? That was for the Telex at work. Computers were going to free us from that tyranny. Except they didn't.
Not true. Digital (DEC) PCs were "almost white" (maybe stightly off-white but still approaching a cream, not beige).
Hard to find a picture that shows this without having aged but this does a good job: https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/userdata/images/large/68...
Note the marked difference between the beige floppy drive and the case.
The major shortcoming is that Airfoil doesn't support Airplay 2, so it doesn't take full advantage of HomePod stereo pairing; and while the sync is perfect, it comes at the cost of massive lag (5+ seconds). Sounds great though!
Supposedly Airplay 2 was cracked about a year ago, but there still aren't any usable third-party implementations. Really a shame that Apple hasn't opened up the standard.
What I ended up doing is getting two of the Bose Home Speaker 500, which has sideways-firing speakers. I leave them in aux mode all the time and arranged them so that no matter which side of the shelf you're on, the left audio will be on your left side and the right audio will be on your right side.
What do you mean by that? It sounds like the Homepod, or even a pair of HomePods Mini, would be perfect for your situation.
While bluetooth would be nice, I find Airplay a much better option. I currently hate trying to use bluetooth headphones/speakers between multiple devices and having to go to. settings to manually "reconnect" them. (Yes, even with Airpods).
This feels like comparing apples (no pun intended) with oranges.
If you mean the delay between asking Siri to 'play music' and music to start, that is annoying and should be fixed by Apple engineers at some point. Siri is just way too slow on the Homepod. I typically use my phone and just manage what is playing that way, which is faster and has a better UI anyways.
If you mean playing something with minimal latency between your source and the speaker, that is just not going to happen with any sort of speaker over wireless. Airplay is pretty good in that regard, but you can never beat just plugging in a line out to a full fledged self powered speaker, like the KEF LS50s or LSX.
> Every Apple device, including the T2 security chip, has been jailbroken with checkra1n so far.
and “jailbreaking makes your device insecure”.
What? The entire point of jailbreaking is to leverage specific kinds of vulnerabilities, often only exploitable via physical access (a tether and DFU mode is typical), in order to root the system so that afterwards other stuff can be done with it more conveniently. Sometimes this even necessitates further security compromises. To use checkra1n itself as an example, last I checked in order to use it on A11 devices (iPhone 8/8+/X) with iOS 14 you must give up on using any passcode on the device via the "Skip A11 BPR Check" option.
It's certainly worthy to note that none of this should inherently be necessary. Apple could offer power users the option to load their own root certificate alongside Apple's, and then sign and run things with the full iOS technical security model from there. Apple is mixing business desire with security desire. Further, many of the threat vectors introduced by jailbreaking are ultimately the same we deal with on the PC, so they're "new to an iDevice" but something technical users can often mitigate. And it can even offer new security options sometimes to go along with it too!
But none of that means that jailbreaking isn't introducing new threat vectors to the system. It is. It's just that it's often worth it to many of us given the alternatives is all.
The option of installing a root cert now requires users to refuse to install root certs at work or for some App required to get cheaper insurance or whatever crazy idea you could think of. Users would need to know what is possible (at that point anything) and also have the power and incentives to refuse.
Someone did this without the need of jailbreak for Sonos speakers, although it has some delay so was not good for movies or games.
Re: the delay, usually for videos the computer will compensate by delaying the video playback to match the speakers.
I don't own an Apple HomePod, but I'm assuming the situation is similar because I read Spotify is not supported yet.
If that's the case "The speakers of the house." slogan might be miss-leading for many customer that expect bluetooth speaker behaviour or a jack input to play whatever you want in "your" speakers.
It's not a Bluetooth speaker. At no time does Apple claim it's a Bluetooth speaker. If someone wants to believe it's a Bluetooth speaker, that's their fault for failing reading comprehension.
I don't expect Apple to put a big red sticker on HomePod boxes reading, "THIS IS NOT A BLUETOOTH SPEAKER!" any more than I expect an electric car to have a big red sticker on it reading, "THIS WILL NOT RUN ON DIESEL FUEL!"
It's not Bluetooth, but as long as you don't literally need Bluetooth hardware specifically you can use it the same way.
You can. I don't know why the poster claimed it can't. I'm doing it right now with the HomePod I bought yesterday. It shows up just like any other audio device on your LAN.
- AirPlay uses lossless compression to stream audio from source to speaker. All Bluetooth audio streaming uses lossy compression.
- AirPlay has the capability of playing across a much larger distance and with a solid connection between devices than Bluetooth.
- When using AirPlay you’re actually capable of controlling the volume of the Airplay speaker (not just the volume of the device which transfers to the Bluetooth device).
- Airplay can stream to multiple output devices. Bluetooth is one-to-one streaming.
- AirPlay caches multiple minutes of Audio (or Video). AFAIK Bluetooth does not cache.
A sibling comment talked about using a Sonos with Bluetooth, but having delay issues. There is no lag on AirPlay:
Sonos also supports AirPlay, as well as DLNA/UPnP rendering. So for example you can set a Sonos speaker as the output device, wirelessly, in the latest nightly builds of VLC.
So, what's the use case for Bluetooth here? Streaming from phone to HomePod via AirPlay is so superior to Bluetooth as to make it obsolete for such needs.
The only thing I can think of is if the kids in the house have Androids or something. Or do some game consoles stream to Bluetooth speakers?
I wonder if there would be a case for enforcing companies that use the word "speaker" in their products to allow customers to play whatever they want via bluetooth or jack input.
The 2 second delay is annoying, but doesn't really have a big impact for music.
HomePod does this. I'm doing it right now.
Click on the volume icon > select your HomePod. Done.
This would be useful for anyone who uses it to block out traffic/street noise at night.
- Run an audio server on it
I wonder if jailbroken homepod would still do the audio enhancements on the fly with, let's say, spotify. Or the detection of commands in google assistant even while playing music very loud.
You can vote for HomePod support on Spotify's community site:
Kinda sucks. Here in Poland there's no siri in polish. I'd wish apple would give users an option to mark "yeah, I can handle english, sell me the damn device". Same with upcoming fitness service.
No, Ireland is in Ireland, which is the island next to Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. Those and Northern Ireland are in the United Kingdom, and Great Britain, Ireland and a bunch of irrelevant islands make up the British Isles. The British Isles are in Europe, but the United Kingdom isn't in the European Union, except they kinda still are for the next month and some. But one of the Irelands definitely still is, but the entire island of Ireland isn't fully in the European Union, except that they don't want a hard border despite the fact that it's now one of the outer borders of the EU.
Neither. For anybody curious, Northern Ireland is part of the UK, the Republic of Ireland is not. Great Britain is the island consisting of Scotland, Wales and England. The UK consists of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Ireland refers to both the island, and also to the state also known as the Republic of Ireland. The state has been independent from the UK since the 1920s.
No. But that's a subject we really shouldn't get into here.
Let's not mention the UK though...
Not all of them. There's a big warehouse in Czech Republic where all my orders usually come from (To Germany).
It is not available throughout Europe, however.
For example, the Lutron Caseta line requires their proprietary bridge——could the HomePod be augmented to remove this dependency?
I find it so interesting how they use that OS across all their devices.
Edit: I absolutely hate Apple‘s vision for computing devices. Don‘t tell me it‘s good for my grandma because she can‘t mess up with her computer. You can build machines that are both easy to use and give us the freedom to do whatever we want to do with them. Extend them, change them, hack them, open them up, change parts, install other OSes, and whatnot.
For as long as cars (and other motor vehicles) existed people have been able to work on them including on safety systems such as brakes, and the lack of widespread accidents because of this doesn't support the idea of locking them down now.
With sofware, it is as simple as pushing a faulty OTA update. A large portion of all the cars will _instantly_ be impacted.
If the OTA is buggy, it can be exploited on a massive scale regardless.
If you have a hardware switch that needs to be pressed while updating software, there is no possibility for massive scale exploit.
I prefer to have my devices work with minimal effort on my part, and with "good enough" security I can trust.
I mean, everyone has their own acceptable definition of security, I also don't use Apple devices because I cannot check the security of it and any action I could take regarding securing it better means I need to exploit my device...
Even with open source projects, it'd be a Herculean task to confirm that your purchased devices actually contain the same source code that's published (e.g. imagine trying to confirm that the firmware on your wifi card is actually what it says it is).
I generally try first to buy hardware I can install myself the OS, that removes the temptation of the manufacturer to use the product as a data gathering tool.
> Even with open source projects, it'd be a Herculean task to confirm that your purchased devices actually contain the same source code that's published (e.g. imagine trying to confirm that the firmware on your wifi card is actually what it says it is).
When it's open source, there are always more eyeballs on the system, it's not perfect but it's always a better guarantee of security and privacy.
“ As it turns out, there’s no escaping the clutches of the ubiquitous checkm8 exploit (and by extension the checkra1n jailbreak)”
Considering it was a poor quality 2 megapixel sensor with fixed focus up until the iPhone 3GS, you weren’t missing much by not having video. Like to put it in perspective, even the photos it took were utterly horrid in comparison to today. But we also need to keep perspective, in 2007-2009 no phone I can think of had a better camera, let alone a mainstream one.
The point is that even though it was not great quality you could do it by using a jailbreak. The other advanced feature I used a jb to do was... add wallpaper to my homescreen
A point I did not dispute. Hence why I quoted the part I was referencing, rather than his entire post.
It did. But you had to get an app from the App Store for it.
Apple's Camera app didn't do videos. But others did.
 See, e.g., https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/tips-tricks/original-iphone-ip...